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It's funny because it's true. You can always count on the defenders of the Corp. to show up when needed.

by isodev 2y ago

JohnMakin 2y ago
I suspect this is in no small part because many people here’s livelihoods are dependent or intertwined with said Corps, whether directly or indirectly. It’s very difficult to separate that innate bias. I don’t agree with the gp comment’s sentiment though, plenty of people here and elsewhere go hard to bat for google, although admittedly lately that’s increasingly difficult to do with a straight face.
- ryandrake 2y ago
  I’ve never understood why one would take time out of their lives, go to an online forum, and simp for a trillion dollar corporation or a billionaire. What are they getting out of it? MegaCorp isn’t going to give you a coupon for defending their honor online. Their CEO isn’t going to come to your birthday party. Their PR team isn’t going to send you a nice letter on parchment thanking you. What does one get out of putting finger to keyboard in defense of a megacorp? You see it all the time on HN and it is bizarre.
  - cruffle_duffle 2y ago
    Because sometimes people are being wrong on the internet and given the entire point of this site is discussion, well, what else would you expect. Nobody is simping for anything. Taken at face value, folks just have an opinion that is different than your and they are expressing it on a site designed explicitly to express such things. And that is just fine. Who knows maybe they have a point that you never considered. Why else would you visit the comments here? Just to get a pat on the back that every person on the planet thinks exactly like you do?
- jajko 2y ago
  I've found out even seasoned (but more often junior) devs and other folks have trouble accepting that their job is just another cog in some corporate machine where their added value or morality of job is often sorta grey area, without clarity even on the shade of it. It can be banking, it can be ad business, or any other morally questionable endeavors, its the same story. Don't blame them per se, they don't know better and life would look suddenly pretty bleak with cold hard look in the mirror. Maybe the only clear failure IMHO is to not have something much more important defining who you are to yourself, your self-worth to say. Because then this becomes rather unimportant aspect of your existence and the need for elaborate invention of new convenient truths is much lower.
  - JohnMakin 2y ago
    > I've found out even seasoned (but more often junior) devs and other folks have trouble accepting that their job is just another cog in some corporate machine where their added value or morality of job is often sorta grey area, without clarity even on the shade of it. This was/is very difficult for me. I am about a decade into my career and 15 years into when I first started seriously messing around with tech - in those days, ~2010, tech was seen as the future to the planet and that message very much was pitched all around silicon valley and trickled into my coursework. The massive disillusionment I felt right out of school was a really hard hit and caused a bit of depression. I wasn't changing the world, I wasn't even doing anything remotely useful for a company that also wasn't doing anything remotely useful and I think that's been the case for most of my career, outside of the occasional instances where I do consulting (which I find rewarding actually). But such is life, outside of tech as well. I take pride now in my work, not whatever I think I am contributing to society. If my work is doing something ultimately pointless or supporting something that is morally or ethically gray, I take pride in ignoring that (because I have no control over it) and doing it as best as I can and that has helped a lot. Some may judge me harshly for that, but I don't care, it is really one of the only sane ways to cope - rather than conjuring insane justifications for why things are the way they are (which suck).
- resource_waste 2y ago
  You see teens/low income people with a new iphone and its their identity. I had a teacher call me poor for having an Android. I made 4x more money than her in a year, and decided to let her know that. I also let her know that a phone I can get for $30/mo isnt much of a status symbol. Unemployed teens are able to afford it somehow.

It's funny because it's true. You can always count on the defenders of the Corp. to show up when needed.

by isodev 2y ago

It's funny because it's true. You can always count on the defenders of the Corp. to show up when needed.

I suspect this is in no small part because many people here’s livelihoods are dependent or intertwined with said Corps, whether directly or indirectly. It’s very difficult to separate that innate bias. I don’t agree with the gp comment’s sentiment though, plenty of people here and elsewhere go hard to bat for google, although admittedly lately that’s increasingly difficult to do with a straight face.

ryandrake 2y ago
I’ve never understood why one would take time out of their lives, go to an online forum, and simp for a trillion dollar corporation or a billionaire. What are they getting out of it? MegaCorp isn’t going to give you a coupon for defending their honor online. Their CEO isn’t going to come to your birthday party. Their PR team isn’t going to send you a nice letter on parchment thanking you. What does one get out of putting finger to keyboard in defense of a megacorp? You see it all the time on HN and it is bizarre.
- cruffle_duffle 2y ago
  Because sometimes people are being wrong on the internet and given the entire point of this site is discussion, well, what else would you expect. Nobody is simping for anything. Taken at face value, folks just have an opinion that is different than your and they are expressing it on a site designed explicitly to express such things. And that is just fine. Who knows maybe they have a point that you never considered. Why else would you visit the comments here? Just to get a pat on the back that every person on the planet thinks exactly like you do?
jajko 2y ago
I've found out even seasoned (but more often junior) devs and other folks have trouble accepting that their job is just another cog in some corporate machine where their added value or morality of job is often sorta grey area, without clarity even on the shade of it. It can be banking, it can be ad business, or any other morally questionable endeavors, its the same story. Don't blame them per se, they don't know better and life would look suddenly pretty bleak with cold hard look in the mirror. Maybe the only clear failure IMHO is to not have something much more important defining who you are to yourself, your self-worth to say. Because then this becomes rather unimportant aspect of your existence and the need for elaborate invention of new convenient truths is much lower.
- JohnMakin 2y ago
  > I've found out even seasoned (but more often junior) devs and other folks have trouble accepting that their job is just another cog in some corporate machine where their added value or morality of job is often sorta grey area, without clarity even on the shade of it. This was/is very difficult for me. I am about a decade into my career and 15 years into when I first started seriously messing around with tech - in those days, ~2010, tech was seen as the future to the planet and that message very much was pitched all around silicon valley and trickled into my coursework. The massive disillusionment I felt right out of school was a really hard hit and caused a bit of depression. I wasn't changing the world, I wasn't even doing anything remotely useful for a company that also wasn't doing anything remotely useful and I think that's been the case for most of my career, outside of the occasional instances where I do consulting (which I find rewarding actually). But such is life, outside of tech as well. I take pride now in my work, not whatever I think I am contributing to society. If my work is doing something ultimately pointless or supporting something that is morally or ethically gray, I take pride in ignoring that (because I have no control over it) and doing it as best as I can and that has helped a lot. Some may judge me harshly for that, but I don't care, it is really one of the only sane ways to cope - rather than conjuring insane justifications for why things are the way they are (which suck).
resource_waste 2y ago
You see teens/low income people with a new iphone and its their identity. I had a teacher call me poor for having an Android. I made 4x more money than her in a year, and decided to let her know that. I also let her know that a phone I can get for $30/mo isnt much of a status symbol. Unemployed teens are able to afford it somehow.