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I always thought this was a stupid restriction. You can't view the post while authenticated but you can view the post while unauthenticated.
by nicexe 2y ago
I always thought this was a stupid restriction.
You can't view the post while authenticated but you can view the post while unauthenticated.
- ihuman 2y agoThe old blocking also stopped your posts from appearing in their "for you" timeline. The new blocking doesn't.
- modeless 2y agoThis is pure speculation. It's not implemented yet and there is no detailed explanation of how it will work. It could easily still prevent your posts from being algorithmically recommended.
- avree 2y agoReddit's implementation is even worse. It breaks all sorts of commenting/replying even down the comment chain, if anyone in the parent is blocked. And, the mobile app shows no usable errors. But, you can log out, or even make a second account, and see everything.
- CydeWeys 2y agoI block people on Twitter all the time, but I can't even remember the last time I had to block anyone on reddit (it was years ago). This speaks to the different models between the two -- on reddit I'm only interacting on specific subreddits, which because I've chosen them, have much nicer and more reasonable people than "all of Twitter". Twitter is always just nonstop fighting and yelling.
- saagarjha 2y agoReddit has a lot more people who block because they want to get in the last word and prevent you from replying.
- Eisenstein 2y agoIt has become weaponized. If someone blocks you, they can see your posts but you can't see theirs, and there is a good chance they will block you if you get into any kind of long argument where they feel personally insulted that they are being disagreed with. Once you are blocked you cannot block them, so they will always see your posts but you can't see their their posts and there is no recourse for this, it is just is, forever. So you end up proactively blocking people so that can't happen. Someone needs to analyze this as game theory and write a paper on it. It is so poorly thought out and implemented that it would be funny if reddit didn't have a monopoly on long form written discussions on a lot of topics.
- CydeWeys 2y agoWeird, and TIL. I haven't blocked on reddit in years and haven't felt the need to, and also can't say I've noticed anyone who's blocked me. BTW, you can block users that have blocked you: https://www.reddit.com/r/help/comments/sp0zdb/how_do_i_block_user_that_blocked_me/ https://www.reddit.com/r/help/comments/sp0zdb/how_do_i_block...
- Eisenstein 2y agoYou can block users that block you -- if you know their username. But you don't know who has blocked you, and if they block you, you don't get to see their posts any more/ And you wouldn't notice if anyone blocked you -- that's the whole point -- but entire posts and threads could be right under your nose and hidden. Regardless of whether it affects you or not -- it is ill conceived, does not accomplish its stated goal, and is easily abused by bad actors and thus should be heavily revised or removed.
- thaumasiotes 2y agoThe restriction isn't on them seeing your posts. It's on you seeing their posts. If you don't want them to see your posts, Twitter provides that functionality too. It just isn't called "blocking".
- fwip 2y agoWhat's Twitter call it?
- thaumasiotes 2y agoIt's called protecting your account. A protected account can only be viewed by followers, and followers have to be approved by the account. https://help.x.com/en/safety-and-security/public-and-protected-posts https://help.x.com/en/safety-and-security/public-and-protect... https://help.x.com/en/safety-and-security/how-to-make-x-private-and-public https://help.x.com/en/safety-and-security/how-to-make-x-priv... (Note that, because it's always possible to create new Twitter accounts, a whitelist is the only way to prevent someone from seeing your posts.)
- pbreit 2y agoOne of the dumber features on the internet. It permanently degrades the user experience and with no recourse.
- jonathrg 2y agoIt only degrades the user experience if you're trying to interact with someone who blocked you. Which is the point.
- latexr 2y ago> You can't view the post while authenticated but you can view the post while unauthenticated. As per the article (emphasis mine): > While a source at X told The Verge that the platform is making this change because people can already view posts from users who’ve blocked them when using another account or when logged out, several of us at The Verge (myself included) have noticed that X actually prevents you from viewing someone’s profile if you’re logged out. For my part, I can see some accounts but not others, though the “rule” is not clear. Even then, on the accounts I can see they only show a dumb disjointed list of tweets ordered by popularity regardless of post date.
- bluedino 2y agoReddit works the same way. Blocking is so stupid anyway.
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- boo-ga-ga 2y agoIt might look like this, but thinking about it, I guess it's still useful in reducing unwanted interactions. People are lazy, and thus adding even a little friction can help a lot in preventing them from doing stalkering, spreading hate etc. I.e. of course it's possible to login with another user, find the one who blocked you, make a screenshot or something and then quote it or perform any other interaction in your main account. But it's obviously not very easy. So I'm sure it worked as a solution to reduce negative interactions on the platform. However, Musk doesn't want reducing these, his goal is spreading chaos and forcing his narratives, so the decision totally makes sense for him.
- felipeerias 2y agoIsn't it a bit weird that a person can share a screenshot of a tweet by an account that has blocked them? It shouldn't be that hard to check if an image looks like a tweet and, if it does, find out the exact match.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> his goal is spreading chaos and forcing his narratives It may be as simple as revealing blocked content is a short path to increasing outrage and thus engagement. Like, I could see Facebook doing this on Threads.
- concordDance 2y ago[flagged]
- boo-ga-ga 2y agoI am actually very sure that Elon is an extremely smart person. I can also see that he amplifies and posts disinformation posts that spread hateful narratives. That's why I make a conclusion that his intentions are reaching his goals in this, quite evil and harmful for the society way. Even if I liked him, this still would had hold true.
- johnnyanmac 2y agoThey should have had an "ignore" feature from the start, as well as block. They can post all the vile they want, I just don't want to read it. But IME, the kind of people I want to block are the exact kinds of people that would go through all that effort to keep trying to cause drama.
- viraptor 2y agoIt provides friction for further misbehaving. Imagine you blocked someone who has serious issues with people who #foobar. It's better for you if they can't easily find you and repost your content to their community who also hate #foobar. It's not perfect, but the friction helps prevent drive-by bad behaviour.
- trompetenaccoun 2y agoIt's the opposite. People with serious issues (i.e. stalkers, trolls etc.) will continue following on a second account or proxy. Meanwhile regular accounts with legitimate criticisms (for example pointing out misinformation, calling out bias, and so on) get blocked by bad actors and those will not find them anymore and repost because they don't invest time in it. Blocking mainly prevents regular normal users from seeing tweets. Best example is Lex Fridman who's blocked a million people for no apparent reason. Say something he doesn't like: You're blocked. Never even interacted with him but commented on a topic he doesn't approve of: Blocked. You under-cook fish: Believe it or not, he blocks you.
- bragr 2y agoThose are all issues as well, but brigading is absolutely a thing.
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- trompetenaccoun 2y agoJust to be clear they still won't be able to interact with you after they're blocked. The only change is they can keep seeing your tweets directly in their account, as opposed to having to log out.
- orwin 2y agoThis I think is good. I don't really care about what is shown, because in my opinion, twitter discussions are rarely worth anything, but I get the point of 'more visibility = good'. I just dislike brigading. And I don't follow anything political on Twitter, I used to follow cybersec and US sports, still there you had brigading (and sometimes attacks got _really_ personal, like a bunch of people making dogwhistle comments about someone who criticized their favorite basketball player because he looks ashkenaz. I think he's a tv personality now btw).
- thih9 2y agoBut the point is you can’t see these posts from a particular account. It makes interaction between the two accounts a bit more difficult and so a bit less likely.
- Hamuko 2y agoBut interaction between accounts is still not possible?
- thih9 2y agoYes, the article says “engagements are still not allowed under blocks”. Then again, interaction in the general sense can still happen (you can always take a screenshot and post that).
- michaelteter 2y agoThe blocked person can obviously create a new account and bypass that block to some degree, but as other have mentioned it will prevent them from reposting on their main account
- rbanffy 2y agoUnless they do a screenshot. Not a big deterrent.
- kristopolous 2y agoA well behaved blocked person will honor the restriction but this only antagonizes the unhinged who usually have multiple accounts. Something that less aggravates people prone to bad behavior is the right move.
- steinuil 2y agoTo be fair, you can barely view any post while unauthenticated these days. Sometimes I click on a link to a tweet on my work laptop (where I'm not authenticated) and I get immediately assaulted by several pop-ups and cookie bars and redirected to the landing page when try to dismiss them.
- teruakohatu 2y agoI have given up trying to view content unauthenticated, I used to be able to close the popups but now I get redirected to a login when I do.
- sionisrecur 2y agoYou can insert "cancel" between "x" and ".com"
- jimbob45 2y agoI have given up trying to view content unauthenticated Same. I’ve accidentally made it 18 years without creating a Twitter account and there’s no content compelling enough for me to want to break my streak.
- pbreit 2y agoYou can create a new account. It's a poorly designed feature that degrades the user experience semi-permanently and with no recourse.
- bluescrn 2y agoAFAIK, you can't view any tweets unless logged in these days. But the sort of user being frequently blocked likely has multiple accounts anyway.
- jdminhbg 2y ago> AFAIK, you can't view any tweets unless logged in these days You can view a single tweet, but it won't display a thread for you unless you log in.
- wepple 2y agoThere does seem to be an exception for public outlets. I clicked a link to NYPDs twitter and didn’t have to AuthN. Makes sense too; every org who wanted their content to be fully available to anyone would leave if twitter mandated login (Although they still use Facebook)
- hypeatei 2y ago> every org who wanted their content to be fully available... Every single public account I've visited still has the feed in non-chronological order which instantly makes it useless to me. I don't care about a post from my city government in 2019.
- jfengel 2y agoIn theory you can't see any tweets at all, because they're now just "posts". But everybody still calls them "tweets" because it was an amazing bit of branding.
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- toddmorey 2y agoI will always call it twitter & always call them tweets.
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- maxglute 2y agoI thought so too, but also fun to see people posting they've been blocked by person they're debating... well arguing with, whether the blocked deserved it because they're being an ass, or whether the blocker was simply thin skinned. I think the latter, seeing people rage quit because they can't rationalize their position, is actually pretty useful signal.