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I rode a bike in Lausanne, which was a primarily 3D city. T was a bit of a struggle to get up the hill in the morning though, you could coast back down at night

I rode a bike in Lausanne, which was a primarily 3D city. T was a bit of a struggle to get up the hill in the morning though, you could coast back down at night. Before that I lived in Seattle which wasn’t as extreme, but if you lived on say Queen Anne hill instead of Ballard, I could see where that wouldn’t work out. Maybe that’s why Minneapolis has better cycling infrastructure than Seattle.

loa_in_ 2y ago
The best part of biking uphill is that you can just walk alongside your bike if you want to take a break and you lose nothing
Reason077 2y ago
e-bikes are getting pretty popular. Solves the hill problem.
- robertlagrant 2y ago
  Yes, super-recent developments may obviate hills, but 40 years of city design have already happened. The Netherlands case was easy mode, and they leaned into it while extending their cities. That's not useful for almost any other country. Also e-bikes are expensive and heavy, of course, so they're a good gentrification measure, if you're into that sort of thing, but they aren't for everyone.
  - GateCrasher 2y ago
    Alot cheaper and less heavy then a car.
    - robertlagrant 2y ago
      And cheaper and less heavy than a space shuttle. But neither will seem that relevant when it comes to parking and securing your electric bike when you live 5 floors up.
      - Reason077 2y ago
        Lack of parking can be a barrier to adoption with any type of bike. Nobody wants to lug any bike up stairs. But it's a solvable problem. Newer apartment buildings in London must provide secure cycle parking for residents and visitors. For older buildings that lack such provisions, London councils often provide secure (covered, lockable) on-street cycle storage facilities. 1 or 2 car parking spaces can be converted into parking for many bikes! [1] [1] https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/cycling/cycle-parking https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/cycling/cycle-parking

loa_in_ 2y ago

The best part of biking uphill is that you can just walk alongside your bike if you want to take a break and you lose nothing

Reason077 2y ago

e-bikes are getting pretty popular. Solves the hill problem.

robertlagrant 2y ago
Yes, super-recent developments may obviate hills, but 40 years of city design have already happened. The Netherlands case was easy mode, and they leaned into it while extending their cities. That's not useful for almost any other country. Also e-bikes are expensive and heavy, of course, so they're a good gentrification measure, if you're into that sort of thing, but they aren't for everyone.
- GateCrasher 2y ago
  Alot cheaper and less heavy then a car.
  - robertlagrant 2y ago
    And cheaper and less heavy than a space shuttle. But neither will seem that relevant when it comes to parking and securing your electric bike when you live 5 floors up.
    - Reason077 2y ago
      Lack of parking can be a barrier to adoption with any type of bike. Nobody wants to lug any bike up stairs. But it's a solvable problem. Newer apartment buildings in London must provide secure cycle parking for residents and visitors. For older buildings that lack such provisions, London councils often provide secure (covered, lockable) on-street cycle storage facilities. 1 or 2 car parking spaces can be converted into parking for many bikes! [1] [1] https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/cycling/cycle-parking https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/cycling/cycle-parking