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LinkedIn does not use European users' data for training its AI
- rkagerer 2y agoDefaulting this setting to ON is inexcusable. We never gave permission, and it's a blatant breach of privacy. It's a serious lapse of judgement on the part of LinkedIn and a breach of their users' trust.
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- JSDevOps 2y agoHow fucked In the head do you have to be to train ANY AI on LinkedIn Data.
- gedy 2y agoTraining is one thing, but that feature to have AI help you with your LI posts seems psychotic. Generic generated slop for what exactly.
- bqmjjx0kac 2y agoI think it depends on what your objective is. Like if you want to simulate the LinkedIn experience, it's natural to train on LinkedIn data.
- artursapek 2y agomaybe someone needs an AI that generates smug self-congratulatory word salad
- yarg 2y agoIt could be used for all sorts of things: You could use it to indicate the fit between employees and companies; You could use it to detect lies and exaggerations in CVs; You could use it to estimate when employees are likely to be considering seeking new opportunities. There's significant potential for business relevant applications.
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- bastawhiz 2y agoI'm looking forward to getting fired because my employer thinks I'm considering new opportunities because they used LinkedIn AI
- chrsw 2y agoDon't worry, people are hard at work making sure these AI systems are "aligned".
- yarg 2y agoThat's cool, but when decent companies think that legitimately useful people are considering resigning they often don't fire but instead offer a raise.
- mystified5016 2y agoLol
- yazzku 2y ago[flagged]
- wkat4242 2y agoBut linkedin is far from accurate information. It's full of hollow mindless corporate PR and trumped up CVs.
- playingalong 2y agoWell, not a general purpose one, but... knowing LI doesn't have any NSFW content, is full of marketing content (both corporate marketing and self boasting individuals), tends to prefer positive signals (all projects succeed, etc.), is mostly done in English, and so on... ... There is clearly a market for text generation in this language bubble. Think of all the internal and external communication in your $BigCorp. That has immediate use not only in marketing, but also HR, recruitment, company policing, etc. Your next company town hall can be prepared and led (!) by this thing.
- Havoc 2y agoHR and marketing will love it. Make of that what you will
- Brajeshwar 2y agoUnfortunately, the bitter news is that LinkedIn works for 98.42% of people.
- specproc 2y agoExactly. Who wakes up in the morning and thinks, "You know what the world needs? An LLM that writes linkedin influencer-style posts".
- mewpmewp2 2y agoThe linkedin influencers probably?
- amarcheschi 2y agoYup, I noticed this a few days ago in some subreddit like /r/assholedesign, I think a few months ago we had a similar feature on instagram and perhaps fb, I don't know if it's still active in EU on those meta products
- slowmovintarget 2y agoWhich implies that elsewhere... There are some consumer protections that I really do wish we imported into the U.S., especially food safety and chemical usage. Too much regulatory capture for that, though.
- hcfman 2y agoYou guys are welcome to the Cyber Resilience act if you like. which burdens software developers to risk loosing 2.5% of their turnover (Not profit, turnover) if they are unable to deliver a critical security bug to their clients years after the guarantee has expired. So you better make sure that your new startup with hardly any money gets it right the first time because every update existentially puts your company at risk. It also means that you can't keep you margins really low as your risk remains high as it's turnover based.
- zaptrem 2y agoWhy do you care if someone trains an AI on content you have chosen to post publicly (LinkedIn profile/posts)? I’d understand if it was your DMs or something but this stuff is no secret.
- mystified5016 2y agoYeah, everyone should be allowed to cut down trees on public property for firewood, or dump their trash in public parks! If they didn't want these resources to be exploited, they shouldn't make them publicly accessible!
- zaptrem 2y agoCutting down a tree implies the tree is no longer there and cannot be used by others. In this case, the content is still there, unaltered.
- hn_throwaway_99 2y agoThis is probably the worst analogy I've read this year.
- ilrwbwrkhv 2y agoLinkedIn is the bottom of the barrel of the labour pool. Wonder why even train the data with any of them.
- Kim_Bruning 2y agoOf course this then later leads to: "Linkedin AI has non-European bias" I'm of two minds.
- smdyc1 2y agoExactly what i was thinking.
- makeitdouble 2y agoThis would be a bigger issue if Linkedin cared a lot about EU users in the first place. If tomorrow a user facing feature needed to be radically different between US and EU users, I think they'd also delay EU rollout until it reaches an actionable priority, so it's kinda par for the course.
- cyanydeez 2y agoImagine an AI that's only allowed to mine the data of people to stupid to elect representatives that protect their privacy.
- yazzku 2y agoFuck LinkedIn. They should have already been sued for their exploitation of people's identities a long time ago.
- bastard_op 2y agoJust imagine if we had the same privacy protections as the EU in the US.
- antegamisou 2y agoWell one can't have everything. The average webdev in many countries of Europe earns pennies and cost of living being still abysmal. Meanwhile one can only be breathing in the USA with a CS degree and easily make quite a lot, more than enough to get by.
- wkat4242 2y agoDevelopment makes decent money here. Not the 250k$ you'd get in silicon valley but the costs of living are also way lower here. It's definitely one of the better classes of jobs.
- rcbdev 2y agoIn the city center of Vienna rent for my three room apartment is 600 bucks. When I used to live in the U.S. I earned more for sure, but the quality of life and cost of living was such crap in comparison that it could never make it worth it. I don't really mind that I earn less here.
- s-skl 2y agoGood.
- ein0p 2y agoI wonder how they use US data too. LinkedIn is so cringe, the value of its data in the mix is probably negative.
- Chris_Newton 2y agoIn the UK, I found the relevant setting was present (and had been turned on) for my profile when this came to my attention last week. Curiously, I can no longer find that setting now. Given the UK’s privacy and data protection environment is still largely the same as the EU’s, I wonder whether this was an oversight.
- left-struck 2y agoI wonder how this works for Europeans abroad. More to the point, as an Australian can I trick these tech companies into thinking I’m a European because my government won’t protect me.
- rockwotj 2y agoUS folks, opt out here: https://www.linkedin.com/mypreferences/m/settings/data-for-ai-improvement https://www.linkedin.com/mypreferences/m/settings/data-for-a...
- zmmmmm 2y agoI know Europeans will probably be all high fiving each other and congratulating themselves on how much better their regulatory environment is. But consider the other side of this coin : one of the biggest risks identified for AI is bias in training sets and there are actual demands that companies explicitly make their training sets as inclusive as possible to incorporate all cultures, genders, etc etc. So if Europeans find out they are being excluded from job opportunities later on because employers are using AI tools within LinkedIn to process candidates and it simply doesn't understand the background of European candidates - will they be upset? Will they be demanding LinkedIn be fined for not including Europeans in the training set? I am very curious how all this will play out long term as these competing tensions get worked through.
- tempaccount420 2y agoWhy can't they get that training data in another, legal way?
- edelbitter 2y agoThose "demands" for inclusive training sets are a spin attempt. And a bad one at that: It does not even address the main problem. If I refuse to be judged by a person trying to evade legal review, then that situation does not improve once they promises to make their still-hidden thought process at least as biased as the regional internet spam variety plus a few fan fiction texts for which they violated my copyrights. The whole idea of "you cannot sue me for my discriminatory practices, because I colluded with AI company X to hide the process" is a net negative. It does not matter which side of the coin is up, when I have to pay for it.
- Brajeshwar 2y agoIt might sound naive, but how does LinkedIn confirm and be sure that someone is a European user?
- wodenokoto 2y agoWhat is a European user anyway. Someone who created their account from EU IP-address, someone who says they live in EU, someone who says the work from a company (division) based in EU?
- rchaud 2y ago> .. End of July when X automatically enabled the training of its Grok AI on all its users – European accounts included. Just a few days after the launch, consumer organizations filed a formal privacy complaint with the Irish Data Protection Commission (DPC)[...]. The Irish Court has now dropped the privacy case against X as the platform agreed to permanently halt the collection of EU users' personal data [...]. Why drop the case? A large amount of data was still collected, was it not? I'm sure X is happy to agree to not collecting data in the future, seeing as how they've already collected, what, 18 years of data already?
- BurnGpuBurn 2y agoCorrection, LinkedIn SAYS the're not using the data of European users to train their AI. Who will ever know if they do or not...