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I mean... the game was in development for 8 years and paid the bills for (apparently) 150 people working on the game for nearly a full decade. That's pretty goo

I mean... the game was in development for 8 years and paid the bills for (apparently) 150 people working on the game for nearly a full decade. That's pretty good for a complete failure ;) I guess they just couldn't find the magic formula to keep the game even longer in development like Star Citizen managed to do.

chii 2y ago
> like Star Citizen which has amazing content - as judged by the sales of the ships and such in the game, even before gameplay existed. The problem with concord is that there are a bunch of wokes at the helm, trying to push a personal agenda via this project, but failing to see that gamers aren't buying what they're selling. Gamers who, first and foremost, want fun games, cool graphics and immersion in fantasy.
- walls 2y ago
  The lottery has amazing content - as judged by the sales of tickets and such.
- nerdjon 2y ago
  I guarantee you that was not the actual problem with this game. The more inclusive part of this game was barely talked about because most don’t care and have realized they the world is bigger than their narrow view. Most games today are diverse, some more than others. Including many Sony games that sell incredibly well.
  - robertlagrant 2y ago
    > The more inclusive part of this game was barely talked about because most don’t care and have realized they the world is bigger than their narrow view. This is never the problem with games that fail due to "woke" things. You, probably like the Concord devs, have a different definition of "woke" to the critics, and until you realise that you'll continue to make this mistake.
    - BoxFour 2y ago
      You’ve made a valid point mainly because, for a significant portion of people who use the term, "woke" has become a blanket term for anything they don’t like. The word has lost any specific meaning. “The game is bad because it’s bad”.
      - robertlagrant 2y ago
        You've just made the same mistake as the OP.
        BoxFour 2y ago
        Ok.
    - nerdjon 2y ago
      So educate me. What exactly is the critics definition of “woke” that somehow is anything other than diverse?
      - Jensson 2y ago
        Hostility towards anyone who criticizes anything that could be considered diverse. You see a lot of that. When you can't criticize something that is diverse then it ensures it will be shit. You can have diverse things that are good, but not when it isn't allowed to be criticized since they will call anyone who criticizes it a racist bigot. That is what the critics means with woke.
        nerdjon 2y ago
        No, you very much can criticize something that is diverse because there are aspects outside of that. Like Concord. You could even criticize how it’s diverse. If it’s done in an insensitive manner for example. Maybe they changed a character after they were established, (as a gay man myself I hate when they change a characters sexuality). Could complain that something is too sexual for the target audience(hint, gay couples existing and showing affection isn’t “sexual” when a straight couple can do it and no one bats an eye). But if your criticism is the existence of diversity, you’re a racist bigot and you should be called out for that. There is zero valid criticism on the mere existence of someone different than you in media.
- some_random 2y ago
  Concord didn't even sell enough for "people aren't buying it because it's woke" to be plausible lmao
- flohofwoe 2y ago
  I rather suspect the game was just boring, "woke" or not.
karlgkk 2y ago
Star citizen has been more or less shipping continual updates, and openly engaging with community. It’s still a disaster, it’s impressive that concord is somehow doing worse
jprete 2y ago
Disregarding the finances, 150 people spent eight years of their life on this. I don't think they were all just phoning it in and paying the bills. It probably stings more than a little bit.
- aleph_minus_one 2y ago
  > 150 people spent eight years of their life on this. Wasting a huge part of your life for your employer is what you get paid for if you have a job.
  - some_random 2y ago
    This might be hard for you to believe but some people actually want their work to be more than just an exchange of their time for money.
    - aleph_minus_one 2y ago
      > some people actually want their work to be more than just an exchange of their time for money. Nearly everybody has grandiose wishes.
- flohofwoe 2y ago
  Yes, but on the other hand working on one game after another that are never released or flop spectacularly is not unusual at all in the games industry, especially in AAA (the long development cycle until the money stopped flowing is though).
CM30 2y ago
The difference being that Star Citizen has some very passionate fans willing to put an obscene amount of time and money into the game. Lots of people dislike that game or think it's a grift, but lots of people also like it and throw lots of money at it for things like fancy virtual ships. Concord basically doesn't have fans, at least in any number that can support a moderately successful game. No matter what they did business wise, the idea and characters and world simply weren't appealing enough to justify the work put into it.

chii 2y ago

> like Star Citizen which has amazing content - as judged by the sales of the ships and such in the game, even before gameplay existed. The problem with concord is that there are a bunch of wokes at the helm, trying to push a personal agenda via this project, but failing to see that gamers aren't buying what they're selling. Gamers who, first and foremost, want fun games, cool graphics and immersion in fantasy.

walls 2y ago
The lottery has amazing content - as judged by the sales of tickets and such.
nerdjon 2y ago
I guarantee you that was not the actual problem with this game. The more inclusive part of this game was barely talked about because most don’t care and have realized they the world is bigger than their narrow view. Most games today are diverse, some more than others. Including many Sony games that sell incredibly well.
- robertlagrant 2y ago
  > The more inclusive part of this game was barely talked about because most don’t care and have realized they the world is bigger than their narrow view. This is never the problem with games that fail due to "woke" things. You, probably like the Concord devs, have a different definition of "woke" to the critics, and until you realise that you'll continue to make this mistake.
  - BoxFour 2y ago
    You’ve made a valid point mainly because, for a significant portion of people who use the term, "woke" has become a blanket term for anything they don’t like. The word has lost any specific meaning. “The game is bad because it’s bad”.
    - robertlagrant 2y ago
      You've just made the same mistake as the OP.
      - BoxFour 2y ago
        Ok.
  - nerdjon 2y ago
    So educate me. What exactly is the critics definition of “woke” that somehow is anything other than diverse?
    - Jensson 2y ago
      Hostility towards anyone who criticizes anything that could be considered diverse. You see a lot of that. When you can't criticize something that is diverse then it ensures it will be shit. You can have diverse things that are good, but not when it isn't allowed to be criticized since they will call anyone who criticizes it a racist bigot. That is what the critics means with woke.
      - nerdjon 2y ago
        No, you very much can criticize something that is diverse because there are aspects outside of that. Like Concord. You could even criticize how it’s diverse. If it’s done in an insensitive manner for example. Maybe they changed a character after they were established, (as a gay man myself I hate when they change a characters sexuality). Could complain that something is too sexual for the target audience(hint, gay couples existing and showing affection isn’t “sexual” when a straight couple can do it and no one bats an eye). But if your criticism is the existence of diversity, you’re a racist bigot and you should be called out for that. There is zero valid criticism on the mere existence of someone different than you in media.
some_random 2y ago
Concord didn't even sell enough for "people aren't buying it because it's woke" to be plausible lmao
flohofwoe 2y ago
I rather suspect the game was just boring, "woke" or not.

karlgkk 2y ago

Star citizen has been more or less shipping continual updates, and openly engaging with community. It’s still a disaster, it’s impressive that concord is somehow doing worse

jprete 2y ago

Disregarding the finances, 150 people spent eight years of their life on this. I don't think they were all just phoning it in and paying the bills. It probably stings more than a little bit.

aleph_minus_one 2y ago
> 150 people spent eight years of their life on this. Wasting a huge part of your life for your employer is what you get paid for if you have a job.
- some_random 2y ago
  This might be hard for you to believe but some people actually want their work to be more than just an exchange of their time for money.
  - aleph_minus_one 2y ago
    > some people actually want their work to be more than just an exchange of their time for money. Nearly everybody has grandiose wishes.
flohofwoe 2y ago
Yes, but on the other hand working on one game after another that are never released or flop spectacularly is not unusual at all in the games industry, especially in AAA (the long development cycle until the money stopped flowing is though).

CM30 2y ago

The difference being that Star Citizen has some very passionate fans willing to put an obscene amount of time and money into the game. Lots of people dislike that game or think it's a grift, but lots of people also like it and throw lots of money at it for things like fancy virtual ships. Concord basically doesn't have fans, at least in any number that can support a moderately successful game. No matter what they did business wise, the idea and characters and world simply weren't appealing enough to justify the work put into it.