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To be honest I don't understand the obsession about documenting things that are done to the painting. Going through that section of the museum I felt like the c

To be honest I don't understand the obsession about documenting things that are done to the painting. Going through that section of the museum I felt like the curators cared more about showcasing their efforts to store the painting than the painting itself.

andrepd 2y ago
Why not? It's an old work of art, if you're going to make changes to it you better do the best equivalent of `git commit` that you physically can, to preserve how it was before your change.
perihelions 2y ago
I suspect there's selection effects in play: museum curators who don't aggressively make the case for more museum funding, don't end up curating the most well-funded museums.
davidmr 2y ago
I think it’s a way of keeping the museum’s single most popular piece of art on display whilst working it. I think most museums would remove it for a while, but so many people come specifically to see this painting that they want to keep it viewable, so they make a little show of its restoration. I dunno; I’ve been through that floor 5 or 6 times since they started work, and people always seem to love the spectacle of it.
throwup238 2y ago
Preserving and restoring an oil painting that old and large is a minor achievement, especially considering how many people have tried to destroy the painting in the last hundred years.
- shagie 2y ago
  One of the channels that I've stumbled across in my YouTube travels is Baumgartner Restoration - https://www.youtube.com/@BaumgartnerRestoration https://www.youtube.com/@BaumgartnerRestoration > Julian Baumgartner of Baumgartner Fine Art Restoration, a second generation studio and now the oldest in Chicago employs only the finest archival and reversible materials and techniques to conserve and restore artworks for future generations. Its really interesting seeing the removal of past restoration attempts and the modern techniques to restore a painting. If I was to pick two that touch most on the responsibility of restoration and what is and is not achievable... Scraping, Scraping, Scraping Or A Slow Descent Into Madness. The Conservation of Mathias J. Alten https://youtu.be/YOOQl0hC18U https://youtu.be/YOOQl0hC18U Restoring The Faceless Painting https://youtu.be/hsTkaSbMLHw https://youtu.be/hsTkaSbMLHw https://youtu.be/rDVcgpSwnyg https://youtu.be/rDVcgpSwnyg https://youtu.be/JWCBNL-iu5s https://youtu.be/JWCBNL-iu5s
dewey 2y ago
Sometimes I find these things more interesting than the painting. I think it's good to also highlight what the museum is working on. Otherwise people would think it's just a room where they hang up new paintings once in a while, the restoring and research part would then be even more invisible.
wrsh07 2y ago
I always find it fascinating! Much like it is important in a museum of natural history to note "science isn't finished, some of these things are still under research" it's important to contextualize the painting you see today. The painting today is different than it was fifty years ago or a hundred years ago or from the day it was completed. It's common for paintings to be modified after completion, either by the creator or by the current owner. Whose version are you seeing? What are the possible versions? Anyway, the best part of a museum is you don't have to look at the things that bore you
- ErigmolCt 2y ago
  Yep, paintings are living artifacts that evolve over time
roughly 2y ago
This particular piece of work is damn near 400 years old. When one is tasked with participating in preserving such an item so the next twenty generations can also enjoy it, it pays to take notes on what you’ve done with your small part of that chain.

andrepd 2y ago

Why not? It's an old work of art, if you're going to make changes to it you better do the best equivalent of `git commit` that you physically can, to preserve how it was before your change.

perihelions 2y ago

I suspect there's selection effects in play: museum curators who don't aggressively make the case for more museum funding, don't end up curating the most well-funded museums.

davidmr 2y ago

I think it’s a way of keeping the museum’s single most popular piece of art on display whilst working it. I think most museums would remove it for a while, but so many people come specifically to see this painting that they want to keep it viewable, so they make a little show of its restoration. I dunno; I’ve been through that floor 5 or 6 times since they started work, and people always seem to love the spectacle of it.

throwup238 2y ago

Preserving and restoring an oil painting that old and large is a minor achievement, especially considering how many people have tried to destroy the painting in the last hundred years.

shagie 2y ago
One of the channels that I've stumbled across in my YouTube travels is Baumgartner Restoration - https://www.youtube.com/@BaumgartnerRestoration https://www.youtube.com/@BaumgartnerRestoration > Julian Baumgartner of Baumgartner Fine Art Restoration, a second generation studio and now the oldest in Chicago employs only the finest archival and reversible materials and techniques to conserve and restore artworks for future generations. Its really interesting seeing the removal of past restoration attempts and the modern techniques to restore a painting. If I was to pick two that touch most on the responsibility of restoration and what is and is not achievable... Scraping, Scraping, Scraping Or A Slow Descent Into Madness. The Conservation of Mathias J. Alten https://youtu.be/YOOQl0hC18U https://youtu.be/YOOQl0hC18U Restoring The Faceless Painting https://youtu.be/hsTkaSbMLHw https://youtu.be/hsTkaSbMLHw https://youtu.be/rDVcgpSwnyg https://youtu.be/rDVcgpSwnyg https://youtu.be/JWCBNL-iu5s https://youtu.be/JWCBNL-iu5s

dewey 2y ago

Sometimes I find these things more interesting than the painting. I think it's good to also highlight what the museum is working on. Otherwise people would think it's just a room where they hang up new paintings once in a while, the restoring and research part would then be even more invisible.

wrsh07 2y ago

I always find it fascinating! Much like it is important in a museum of natural history to note "science isn't finished, some of these things are still under research" it's important to contextualize the painting you see today. The painting today is different than it was fifty years ago or a hundred years ago or from the day it was completed. It's common for paintings to be modified after completion, either by the creator or by the current owner. Whose version are you seeing? What are the possible versions? Anyway, the best part of a museum is you don't have to look at the things that bore you

ErigmolCt 2y ago
Yep, paintings are living artifacts that evolve over time

roughly 2y ago

This particular piece of work is damn near 400 years old. When one is tasked with participating in preserving such an item so the next twenty generations can also enjoy it, it pays to take notes on what you’ve done with your small part of that chain.