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Whatever words you're reading when you look at mine might be incredible, what I wrote is almost 3000 wounded in the crossfire, including children. You're ignor

• mupuff1234 2y ago
  I'm confused, how do you know the 99% of those wounded aren't Hezbollah operatives? How many innocents would get harmed during a more conventional military strike against the same group of operatives? I would be fairly surprised if Hezbollah opsec guidelines didn't say that you must have the pager at you at all times, and make sure it can't be accessed by others.
  • thret 2y ago
    This is likely the most precise large scale military strike of all time. You can't control for everything - some pagers might have been in the hands of innocent people - but it sure seems like an ideal attack vector.
• snovv_crash 2y ago
  Why are you assuming those 2700 people weren't Hezbollah? Who else was carrying the pagers to avoid Israel location tracking?
  • easyThrowaway 2y ago
    Anyone who got resold / loaned those devices, those who were next to blast radius of those devices while going with their lives, any relatives who were unfortunate enough of having an hezbollah member in their family. This is basically just one step above a chemical attack, and can only be excused as "the end justifies the means" by the interested parties.
    • alickz 2y ago
      > Anyone who got resold / loaned those devices Aren't the pagers specifically for transmitting Hezbollah instructions / orders? Why would a Hezbollah member sell/loan such a device to a non-Hezbollah member?
      • easyThrowaway 2y ago
        Beacuse it's a pager, and they're rather common in most of Egypt, Turkey and middle east countries for medical support and first-time responders. I mean, the reason Hezbollah switched to those devices was also because they're readily available in the country. I'd be extremely, extremely surprised if this was a "targeted" shipment rather than a generic batch that was expected to a certain degree to be bought by hezbollah members.
        • meepmorp 2y ago
          > I'd be extremely, extremely surprised if this was a "targeted" shipment rather than a generic batch that was expected to a certain degree to be bought by hezbollah members. Why?
          • easyThrowaway 2y ago
            Because they're not S.P.E.C.T.R.E. It's a separatist group whose more extreme members resort to terrorism, not much differently than IRA, Basque Nationalists or Bosnian Indipendentists. Their supply channel is the same as the civilian population, they're not shopping for vibranium from Hydra. It would be interesting if we could trace the local distributor for those devices and see where they were available at retail, it would probably match the areas in Lebanon where members of hezbollah are commonly located.
            • meepmorp 2y ago
              > It's a separatist group Are you talking about Hezbollah? If so, you're really wrong.
  • remram 2y ago
    Yes I'm assuming not every Lebanese is a terrorist, which seems to be problematic to some. In particular 8-year-old children are probably not.
• whacko_quacko 2y ago
  Almost 3000 wounded are not a problem if they're Hezbollah, no? The child is tragic of course, but one dead child when targeting enemy soldiers is more ethical than the dead children in deliberate attacks on civilians, which is what Hezbollah is doing. Why are you pretending otherwise? Is it the bigotry of low expectations? Arabs/Muslims can act very reasonable and humane too, so there's no reason to measure them with a different yard stick
  • remram 2y ago
    > Almost 3000 wounded are not a problem if they're Hezbollah, no They are a problem in both cases. Stop the whataboutism.