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It's a lot harder to go to war when countries depend on each other economically.

mschuster91 2y ago
Tell that to Russia, its economy is - military production aside - in shambles due to Western sanctions and especially the brain drain. The idea of economically enforced peace only works for democratic countries where the government has to show at least a bare minimum of respect towards its citizens, but not in countries that follow the whims of their respective Dear Leader.
- amanaplanacanal 2y ago
  Putin is surrounded and supported by people who are probably losing a ton of money right now. When he finally learns his lesson, it's probably going to be a harsh one.
  - lucianbr 2y ago
    That won't undo any of the damage done by the war, nor bring anyone back. It will pretty much not have any effect at all.
  - rasz 2y ago
    russian MOD people are making bank right now.
    - dh2022 2y ago
      Too bad for them they can only spend it in Russia on Chinese stuff. (My father in law lives in Moscow. Muscovites pay more for old Japanese cars than brand new Chinese cars)
- joshsyn 2y ago
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foldr 2y ago
This was famously the argument made in the book The Great Illusion, 5 years before the outbreak of the First World War. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Illusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Illusion Wars are often irrational.
- crote 2y ago
  It wasn't wrong, just too early. At the time international trade was still fairly minor, so although a war would be deeply unprofitable it'd still be possible. Today's economy looks quite different, with even basic consumer goods coming from overseas. If international trade were to suddenly cease, most major countries would be in serious trouble really quickly. The most extreme example of this is the European Union. Its economies are so deeply interwoven that they act as a single entity. Separating them to the point that one of its members can independently support a war economy would take decades, so it does indeed make intra-European wars virtually impossible.
  - foldr 2y ago
    It doesn't make war impossible, just economically ruinous.
    - MetaWhirledPeas 2y ago
      And yet it may be the best deterrent we have.
    - isk517 2y ago
      Make's war more unappealing to those that are rational, which is the best you can hope for because there is no sure fire way of dealing with the irrational.
      - foldr 2y ago
        Although I think wars do often have an irrational element, economic considerations aren’t the only ones that should influence rational decision making.

Tell that to Russia, its economy is - military production aside - in shambles due to Western sanctions and especially the brain drain. The idea of economically enforced peace only works for democratic countries where the government has to show at least a bare minimum of respect towards its citizens, but not in countries that follow the whims of their respective Dear Leader.

amanaplanacanal 2y ago
Putin is surrounded and supported by people who are probably losing a ton of money right now. When he finally learns his lesson, it's probably going to be a harsh one.
- lucianbr 2y ago
  That won't undo any of the damage done by the war, nor bring anyone back. It will pretty much not have any effect at all.
- rasz 2y ago
  russian MOD people are making bank right now.
  - dh2022 2y ago
    Too bad for them they can only spend it in Russia on Chinese stuff. (My father in law lives in Moscow. Muscovites pay more for old Japanese cars than brand new Chinese cars)
joshsyn 2y ago
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foldr 2y ago

This was famously the argument made in the book The Great Illusion, 5 years before the outbreak of the First World War. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Illusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Illusion Wars are often irrational.

crote 2y ago
It wasn't wrong, just too early. At the time international trade was still fairly minor, so although a war would be deeply unprofitable it'd still be possible. Today's economy looks quite different, with even basic consumer goods coming from overseas. If international trade were to suddenly cease, most major countries would be in serious trouble really quickly. The most extreme example of this is the European Union. Its economies are so deeply interwoven that they act as a single entity. Separating them to the point that one of its members can independently support a war economy would take decades, so it does indeed make intra-European wars virtually impossible.
- foldr 2y ago
  It doesn't make war impossible, just economically ruinous.
  - MetaWhirledPeas 2y ago
    And yet it may be the best deterrent we have.
  - isk517 2y ago
    Make's war more unappealing to those that are rational, which is the best you can hope for because there is no sure fire way of dealing with the irrational.
    - foldr 2y ago
      Although I think wars do often have an irrational element, economic considerations aren’t the only ones that should influence rational decision making.