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One can only hope that the US learned from its mistake, and doesn't allow chip manufacturing to go offshore to that degree again in future peaceful times.
by nineteen999 2y ago
One can only hope that the US learned from its mistake, and doesn't allow chip manufacturing to go offshore to that degree again in future peaceful times.
- VWWHFSfQ 2y ago> US learned from its mistake, and doesn't allow chip manufacturing to go offshore to that degree again I don't think USA made any mistake. It was always heavily invested in South Korea and Taiwan. Neither of them would even exist today without USA's investment, interest, and stewardship. Intel is the one that made the mistake.
- mschuster91 2y agoOn top of that, the US outsourced of a very very ecologically damaging part of industry. The remains of Silicon Valley, literally named after the hotbed of what was manufactured there, are the largest concentration of Superfund sites in the US.
- flakeoil 2y agoIs it that ecologically damaging? Maybe in the old times when silicon wafers where produced in Silicon Valley and when no-one thought or cared much about the environment. But today, I would assume the damaging effects of semiconductor manufacturing are less profound. But I do not know. Any inputs are welcome.
- mschuster91 2y ago> But today, I would assume the damaging effects of semiconductor manufacturing are less profound Manufacturing chips of just TSMC accounts for 5% (!) of Taiwan's entire electricity consumption, Intel's Arizona fab produces thousands of tons of hazardous waste a year [1]. It's far from the old days, but still a massive impact. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/sep/18/semiconductor-silicon-chips-carbon-footprint-climate https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/sep/18/semicond...
- dehrmann 2y agoIt's a lot harder to go to war when countries depend on each other economically.
- mschuster91 2y agoTell that to Russia, its economy is - military production aside - in shambles due to Western sanctions and especially the brain drain. The idea of economically enforced peace only works for democratic countries where the government has to show at least a bare minimum of respect towards its citizens, but not in countries that follow the whims of their respective Dear Leader.
- amanaplanacanal 2y agoPutin is surrounded and supported by people who are probably losing a ton of money right now. When he finally learns his lesson, it's probably going to be a harsh one.
- lucianbr 2y agoThat won't undo any of the damage done by the war, nor bring anyone back. It will pretty much not have any effect at all.
- rasz 2y agorussian MOD people are making bank right now.
- dh2022 2y agoToo bad for them they can only spend it in Russia on Chinese stuff. (My father in law lives in Moscow. Muscovites pay more for old Japanese cars than brand new Chinese cars)
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- sct202 2y agoIt wasn't really a mistake. At the time Taiwan and South Korea were advancing into semiconductors, the US was more concerned with Japanese domination of the industry so having 2 small countries as alternatives to compete with Japan in some sectors of the industry was beneficial.
- nineteen999 2y agoOne of those small countries has a belligerent neighbor to the north, and the other is coveted by a much larger superpower that thinks it still owns it. The NK situation was obviously widely known at the time, but that the US population/government didn't forsee or take seriously enough the rise of China is perplexing to some of its allies.
- mostlysimilar 2y agoMeanwhile we're offshoring all of our software engineering jobs at a breakneck pace with no regard for the consequences on our future. The whole same story is going to play out again and in 20 years we'll be panicking because nobody in the US will know how to write software anymore.
- themaninthedark 2y agoBut just look at our profit sheets!