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Atkinson Hyperlegible appears to slash their zeroes in the same direction as backslash, unlike all other fonts I have used where the slash in slashed zeroes hav

Atkinson Hyperlegible appears to slash their zeroes in the same direction as backslash, unlike all other fonts I have used where the slash in slashed zeroes have the same direction as a forward slash. Not sure if this was a deliberate design choice. https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Atkinson+Hyperlegible?preview.text=0O1Il https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Atkinson+Hyperlegible?prev... https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Inconsolata?preview.text=0O1Il https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Inconsolata?preview.text=0...

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commodoreboxer 2y ago
Thanks for pointing this out. It looked weird to me, but I couldn't quite put my finger on why.
zinekeller 2y ago
Probably since that it's intended for legibilty, it's to differentiate 0 from Ø.
- a_e_k 2y ago
  I used a reverse-slashed zero in my programming font [1][2] for exactly that reason. I wanted it to be clearly distinct from an O with stroke (and by more than just the slash not extending past the bowl). [1] http://eastfarthing.com/luculent/ http://eastfarthing.com/luculent/ [2] https://usemodify.com/fonts/luculent/ https://usemodify.com/fonts/luculent/
- fsckboy 2y ago
  >it's to differentiate 0 from Ø [a letter used in Danish, Norwegian] most importantly it's to differentiate it from ∅, mathematical null set. "computer people" feel this understandable need to differentiate their zeroes, but "CS-is-math people" are like "but don't use null set!" <— ᵇᵘᵗ ʸᵒᵘ ʲᵘˢᵗ ᵘˢᵉᵈ ᶠᵃᶜᵗᵒʳᶦᵃˡ
  - jansan 2y ago
    Is the exclamation mark character for factorial different from ASCII x21?
    - ndsipa_pomu 2y ago
      No!
  - IshKebab 2y ago
    Hmm I think there are probably more Danish and Norwegian people than mathematicians writing about null sets.
    - cue_the_strings 2y ago
      No way, DK and NO aren't that big, and you learn about empty sets in HS in most of the world. I'd wager there are currently more Indian high schoolers than people in DK/NO.
      - IshKebab 2y ago
        > you learn about empty sets in HS in most of the world lol no.
      - omnibrain 2y ago
        In Germany (>20 years ago) we learned to use {}.
    - zinekeller 2y ago
      You're (probably) correct, considering that the specimen used Ø instead of ∅ (see https://braileinstitute.app.box.com/s/gw2s8k5kfc6t1uabkiyqlcnb1hmwng2v https://braileinstitute.app.box.com/s/gw2s8k5kfc6t1uabkiyqlc...), and the font do not have the null symbol. (also like the German commenter the null set is an empty set = {}, I only encountered ⌀ as diameter symbol, actually)
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ahmedfromtunis 2y ago
My guess is that the other fonts do it to differentiate the slash zero and the Norwegian letter Ø. If that's true then AH's choice seems counterintuitive to me.
- notatoad 2y ago
  to be clear, atkinson hyperlegible slashes the zero in the opposite direction to the Ø. https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Atkinson+Hyperlegible?preview.text=0%C3%98 https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Atkinson+Hyperlegible?prev...
  - ahmedfromtunis 2y ago
    Oh, ok. Thanks for pointing that out. In that case, I think their choice was justified to avoid confusion.
d1sxeyes 2y ago
Theoretically, a slashed zero should not have the slash extending beyond the main body of the character, but in practice, especially in sloppy writing (when the slashed zero is more common) it often does. Also when designing a font for someone who has difficulties distinguishing character shapes, small differences like that may not be immediately obvious. Using a reverse slash immediately shows that it’s a zero without any clashes. I think it’s a fairly elegant solution at the slight cost of being a little unfamiliar (although the slashed zero itself is quite unfamiliar to most people).

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commodoreboxer 2y ago

Thanks for pointing this out. It looked weird to me, but I couldn't quite put my finger on why.

zinekeller 2y ago

Probably since that it's intended for legibilty, it's to differentiate 0 from Ø.

a_e_k 2y ago
I used a reverse-slashed zero in my programming font [1][2] for exactly that reason. I wanted it to be clearly distinct from an O with stroke (and by more than just the slash not extending past the bowl). [1] http://eastfarthing.com/luculent/ http://eastfarthing.com/luculent/ [2] https://usemodify.com/fonts/luculent/ https://usemodify.com/fonts/luculent/
fsckboy 2y ago
>it's to differentiate 0 from Ø [a letter used in Danish, Norwegian] most importantly it's to differentiate it from ∅, mathematical null set. "computer people" feel this understandable need to differentiate their zeroes, but "CS-is-math people" are like "but don't use null set!" <— ᵇᵘᵗ ʸᵒᵘ ʲᵘˢᵗ ᵘˢᵉᵈ ᶠᵃᶜᵗᵒʳᶦᵃˡ
- jansan 2y ago
  Is the exclamation mark character for factorial different from ASCII x21?
  - ndsipa_pomu 2y ago
    No!
- IshKebab 2y ago
  Hmm I think there are probably more Danish and Norwegian people than mathematicians writing about null sets.
  - cue_the_strings 2y ago
    No way, DK and NO aren't that big, and you learn about empty sets in HS in most of the world. I'd wager there are currently more Indian high schoolers than people in DK/NO.
    - IshKebab 2y ago
      > you learn about empty sets in HS in most of the world lol no.
    - omnibrain 2y ago
      In Germany (>20 years ago) we learned to use {}.
  - zinekeller 2y ago
    You're (probably) correct, considering that the specimen used Ø instead of ∅ (see https://braileinstitute.app.box.com/s/gw2s8k5kfc6t1uabkiyqlcnb1hmwng2v https://braileinstitute.app.box.com/s/gw2s8k5kfc6t1uabkiyqlc...), and the font do not have the null symbol. (also like the German commenter the null set is an empty set = {}, I only encountered ⌀ as diameter symbol, actually)
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ahmedfromtunis 2y ago

My guess is that the other fonts do it to differentiate the slash zero and the Norwegian letter Ø. If that's true then AH's choice seems counterintuitive to me.

notatoad 2y ago
to be clear, atkinson hyperlegible slashes the zero in the opposite direction to the Ø. https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Atkinson+Hyperlegible?preview.text=0%C3%98 https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Atkinson+Hyperlegible?prev...
- ahmedfromtunis 2y ago
  Oh, ok. Thanks for pointing that out. In that case, I think their choice was justified to avoid confusion.

d1sxeyes 2y ago

Theoretically, a slashed zero should not have the slash extending beyond the main body of the character, but in practice, especially in sloppy writing (when the slashed zero is more common) it often does. Also when designing a font for someone who has difficulties distinguishing character shapes, small differences like that may not be immediately obvious. Using a reverse slash immediately shows that it’s a zero without any clashes. I think it’s a fairly elegant solution at the slight cost of being a little unfamiliar (although the slashed zero itself is quite unfamiliar to most people).