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Are BigCos any more stable in the US? At least in a startup they probably actually need you because you already know their system. Overseas BigCo means permane

by Aeolun 2y ago

Are BigCos any more stable in the US? At least in a startup they probably actually need you because you already know their system. Overseas BigCo means permanent contracts and being very hard to let go, but that doesn’t seem to be the case in the US (e.g. Elon Musk Twitter).

mlhpdx 2y ago
Jobs at big companies are less stable and end with less notice than at small ones, at least in my experience. In a small company, particularly one with engaged and transparent leadership, everyone knows what’s working and what isn’t and about how long the latter can be endured. At a large company the vast majority of jobs are susceptible to the whims and whispers of a few (who likely aren’t engaged and feel they can’t be transparent). Obviously this is just one person’s opinion.
ThrowawayR2 2y ago
IBM didn't have it's first round of major layoffs until the 1990s, Google and Microsoft didn't have their first major layoffs until 2008-2009, Facebook/Meta didn't have its first major layoffs until 2022, etc. Even then, only a fraction of their employees were affected. People can last quite a long time at such places with a little luck.
- ghaff 2y ago
  You can be in the wrong place at the wrong time anywhere--but, yeah, generally speaking given reasonable competence, you can ride a reasonable, if not spectacular, gravy train at most large organizations for a long time. Maybe that's not your thing--which is fine--but it's probably the case at a lot of large companies.
- paulryanrogers 2y ago
  Stack ranking may push you out long before a major layoff
  - mangamadaiyan 2y ago
    Don't know why you're getting downvotes, this is indeed a fact. (Edit: you don't have to be a bad performer to get shunted out by stack ranking. In a rotten enough organization, it is possible for a manager to write a performance review that acknowledges every goal that you've met, and still gives you a bad rating for any old excuse)
closeparen 2y ago
BigCo is less likely to give a sense of desperation in day-to-day work, but a layoff or forced stack-ranking can still fall out of the clear blue sky due to executive machinations.
__loam 2y ago
Twitter is exceptional in the exception sense.

by Aeolun 2y ago

mlhpdx 2y ago

Jobs at big companies are less stable and end with less notice than at small ones, at least in my experience. In a small company, particularly one with engaged and transparent leadership, everyone knows what’s working and what isn’t and about how long the latter can be endured. At a large company the vast majority of jobs are susceptible to the whims and whispers of a few (who likely aren’t engaged and feel they can’t be transparent). Obviously this is just one person’s opinion.

ThrowawayR2 2y ago

IBM didn't have it's first round of major layoffs until the 1990s, Google and Microsoft didn't have their first major layoffs until 2008-2009, Facebook/Meta didn't have its first major layoffs until 2022, etc. Even then, only a fraction of their employees were affected. People can last quite a long time at such places with a little luck.

ghaff 2y ago
You can be in the wrong place at the wrong time anywhere--but, yeah, generally speaking given reasonable competence, you can ride a reasonable, if not spectacular, gravy train at most large organizations for a long time. Maybe that's not your thing--which is fine--but it's probably the case at a lot of large companies.
paulryanrogers 2y ago
Stack ranking may push you out long before a major layoff
- mangamadaiyan 2y ago
  Don't know why you're getting downvotes, this is indeed a fact. (Edit: you don't have to be a bad performer to get shunted out by stack ranking. In a rotten enough organization, it is possible for a manager to write a performance review that acknowledges every goal that you've met, and still gives you a bad rating for any old excuse)

closeparen 2y ago

BigCo is less likely to give a sense of desperation in day-to-day work, but a layoff or forced stack-ranking can still fall out of the clear blue sky due to executive machinations.

__loam 2y ago

Twitter is exceptional in the exception sense.