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No joke. I accidentally swallowed some once from a vape that was leaking and immediately threw up. Like, it was so quick I didn’t even feel it, I just looked do

No joke. I accidentally swallowed some once from a vape that was leaking and immediately threw up. Like, it was so quick I didn’t even feel it, I just looked down and my shirt was covered in vomit. I’m not sure what kind of juice it was, it was my sisters vape. (Yes, I’ve quit since then, mostly)

kadoban 2y ago
Probably the best outcome. Nicotine is a pretty potent poison, not sure how much is in vape juice though.
- nucleardog 2y ago
  Most of the disposables are 20mg/ml. Average is probably 2ml volume for 40mg total. Unless you were tipping the thing upside down and trying to drink it, you’re gonna get, what, a quarter ml at the high end? So about 5mg of nicotine. Which is about the same amount as in a single piece of nicorette gum. Even if you drank the whole thing, that’s 40mg. The widely accepted estimate for LD50 is closer to 80mg. Reviews in the past decade have put that into question and it looks like it’s off by an order of magnitude—probably more like 800mg. You’re gonna puke and generally feel like shit, but unless you inject it straight in your blood stream you’re gonna be fine.
  - FridayoLeary 2y ago
    There are laws about how the nicotine % a vape can have. In the uk it's something like 2 to 3 percent. In other countries you can get up to 5 percent. Probably so that people don't end up poisoning themselves.
    - nucleardog 2y ago
      The 20mg/ml I mentioned is sold as 2% as well, yeah. I can only guess, but I think the main driver is probably more just general health and the amount people are (intentionally) putting in their bodies more-so than the potential for poisoning. Canada limits everything to 20mg/ml. That keeps a typical disposable at 40mg total, but that's probably actually less of a concern since those are generally pretty well sealed. (The manufacturer doesn't want you refilling them when instead you could throw all the electronics and lithium battery straight in the garbage and buy another one! If we actually wanted to do something for the environment, this should have been made illegal two minutes after someone thought it up.) The bigger concern for poisoning would be the vape juice that's sold for filling the refillable vapes. It's just liquid in a bottle generally sold in 30 and 100ml quantities. Even at 20mg, that gives you a total of 600mg and 2,000mg. So a little 30mg bottle that people leave laying around their house has enough in it to make an adult seriously ill or potentially kill them, and a 100ml bottle has enough that you're well into "most people will die if they drink all of this" territory. This is obviously even more of a concern for kids. Limiting the concentration to avoid the risk of poisoning would be like limiting vodka to being sold at 5% alcohol or something. It's still a risk of poisoning and it's no longer serving its original purpose.

kadoban 2y ago

Probably the best outcome. Nicotine is a pretty potent poison, not sure how much is in vape juice though.

nucleardog 2y ago
Most of the disposables are 20mg/ml. Average is probably 2ml volume for 40mg total. Unless you were tipping the thing upside down and trying to drink it, you’re gonna get, what, a quarter ml at the high end? So about 5mg of nicotine. Which is about the same amount as in a single piece of nicorette gum. Even if you drank the whole thing, that’s 40mg. The widely accepted estimate for LD50 is closer to 80mg. Reviews in the past decade have put that into question and it looks like it’s off by an order of magnitude—probably more like 800mg. You’re gonna puke and generally feel like shit, but unless you inject it straight in your blood stream you’re gonna be fine.
- FridayoLeary 2y ago
  There are laws about how the nicotine % a vape can have. In the uk it's something like 2 to 3 percent. In other countries you can get up to 5 percent. Probably so that people don't end up poisoning themselves.
  - nucleardog 2y ago
    The 20mg/ml I mentioned is sold as 2% as well, yeah. I can only guess, but I think the main driver is probably more just general health and the amount people are (intentionally) putting in their bodies more-so than the potential for poisoning. Canada limits everything to 20mg/ml. That keeps a typical disposable at 40mg total, but that's probably actually less of a concern since those are generally pretty well sealed. (The manufacturer doesn't want you refilling them when instead you could throw all the electronics and lithium battery straight in the garbage and buy another one! If we actually wanted to do something for the environment, this should have been made illegal two minutes after someone thought it up.) The bigger concern for poisoning would be the vape juice that's sold for filling the refillable vapes. It's just liquid in a bottle generally sold in 30 and 100ml quantities. Even at 20mg, that gives you a total of 600mg and 2,000mg. So a little 30mg bottle that people leave laying around their house has enough in it to make an adult seriously ill or potentially kill them, and a 100ml bottle has enough that you're well into "most people will die if they drink all of this" territory. This is obviously even more of a concern for kids. Limiting the concentration to avoid the risk of poisoning would be like limiting vodka to being sold at 5% alcohol or something. It's still a risk of poisoning and it's no longer serving its original purpose.