It's a false dichotomy. But also, we need to gain efficiency, and quickly. That constitutes as growth. The degrowth ideas don't differentiate what kind of grow

It's a false dichotomy. But also, we need to gain efficiency, and quickly. That constitutes as growth. The degrowth ideas don't differentiate what kind of growth they are fighting, neither does targeting neutral growth. You can't target a single number that accurately, we need a details-based intervention.