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It’s worse if you stop using the phrase ‘buy’ and instead use the term ‘rent’. A DNS provider could 10,000x your domain cost and there’s nothing you can do abou
by hsbauauvhabzb 2y ago
It’s worse if you stop using the phrase ‘buy’ and instead use the term ‘rent’. A DNS provider could 10,000x your domain cost and there’s nothing you can do about it.
- parineum 2y agoAnd if you're domain is really worth that much, you can sell it before it expires.
- j-bos 2y agoCan they? I thought ICANN prevented such steep increases?
- joecool1029 2y agoOnly for a few TLD's, stuff like ccTLD's there's no limit on how much a registry can charge.
- t-writescode 2y agoTo be clear, that's because the country that represents that ccTLD has sovereignty over it. That's also why they can have arbitrary, unusual requirements on them.
- ryan29 2y agoThere are a bunch of different domain types all commingled together; non-premium gTLD domains, ccTLD domains, 3rd level domains, registry premium gTLD domains and, as added complexity, aftermarket domains which could be any of the previous listed types. ICANN provides some protection for standard gTLD domains, but it's minimal. You're guaranteed identical pricing to all other standard domain registrants on the gTLD, so they can only raise your price by raising the price of everyone else at the same time. That hasn't stopped some registries from 10x price increases though. The only thing it does is ensure they can't single you out and massively hike your renewal fee. However, that does not apply to registry premium gTLD domains. When you register a registry premium domain you waive those protections and the registries can technically do anything they want. If you register a ccTLD domain, you're at the mercy of that country's registry. If you register a 3rd level domain you're at the mercy of the 2nd level domain owner and they're regulated by either ICANN or a country based registry. It's actually somewhat complex when you get into it.
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- nl 2y ago> A DNS provider could 10,000x your domain cost DNS providers can't do this. It's domain registries that can.
- Tepix 2y agoNo kidding. I had a one letter .tm domain name back in the 90s and they (Turkmenistan) increased the fee to $1000/year.
- darby_nine 2y agoTbh this seems like a win—you want to incentivize making as much use of those short domains as possible.
- snypher 2y agoIs this like forcing a tenant out of a property because you wish to raise the rent?
- seniorivn 2y agoits the opposite, its an increase of rent, because you want to increase rent
- darby_nine 2y agoYea, but in this case the property is very special. I don't think anyone has a right to own a "name" for perpetuity, especially such a short one—that's just extending property rights to a nonsensical place. Granted, I also have zero respect for people who think that trademarks, patents, and copyright are still working to promote rather than stifle the arts and sciences, so I can understand why my above sentiment might rankle.
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- mulmen 2y agoOk please stop posting as darby_nine. I’d like my turn with that identity. I think it fits with some objectionable conspiracy theories I’d like to promote.
- hsbauauvhabzb 2y ago
- adr1an 2y agoWe can prevent this by paying the domain registrar ahead of time for N years. It's not a real solution, but it works (as good as any patch)
- robert_tweed 2y agoThis actually happened to me, but fortunately I never actually used the domain. I registered tweed.dev intending to use robert.tweed.dev as a personal blog. It wasn't classed as a "premium" domain and the first year was £5 or something IIRC, which was half price compared to the normal renewal fee. The next year they decided it was premium after all, and wanted to charge £492,000 for renewal. I still have a screenshot of that, although needless to say I don't own the domain anymore.
- wkat4242 2y agoCouldn't you just transfer it to another registrar? I guess they blocked that but I wonder whether icann allows them to do so. It's indeed ridiculous.
- tdy_err 2y agoIsn’t Google the .dev registrar?
- xelamonster 2y agoThey operate the registry, but are not a registrar (bad choice of terminology) since they sold off that part of their business to Squarespace. Unclear to me who actually raised the price here since you can register a .dev domain with many registrars. That's insane though, I assumed renewal prices were more or less locked in after you own a domain. Even the premium ones that go for thousands say they renew at the standard $12 or whatever.