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Let's not dilute the word slave by equating it with not being able to retire by 50. The entire world outside of Africa is grappling with sub-replacement fertil

Let's not dilute the word slave by equating it with not being able to retire by 50. The entire world outside of Africa is grappling with sub-replacement fertility rates and an inverted demographic pyramid. What this practically means for everyone in the next 30 years is that unlike all of history, where you had 3 children supporting two elderly parents, we now have 1 child supporting two elderly parents. That is a 3x drop in labor force or 3x more labor needed for our elderly. If you don't have kids, God help you in 30 years when everyone else's kid is too busy laboring to help their own parents...

Workaccount2 2y ago
No shot AI isn't going to be able to fill those gaps. Five years ago I was worried about it, but not really anymore.
financltravsty 2y ago
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- reducesuffering 2y ago
  Then you're ok with me saying "good they're raising retirement age, retiring at 50 just means you're making a slave out of everyone else that has to support you with their labor for another 30 years?"
Atomic_Torrfisk 2y ago
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joecot 2y ago
It's unclear if the planet will be habitable for the remainder of my lifetime, let alone any potential child's. As everything slowly gets worse, bringing a child into this world, for the sole purpose of ensuring there's someone to take care of me when I get older, is one of the most selfish acts I could imagine. Sounds like a lot of the world has made the same calculation.
- reducesuffering 2y ago
  https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/please-dont-give-up-on-having-kids https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/please-dont-give-up-on-havi...
- positr0n 2y ago
  > It's unclear if the planet will be habitable for the remainder of my lifetime Wow, can you share some studies that led you to that conclusion?
chaosist 2y ago
GDP per capita in China in 1970 was $113 per year. That is not a typo. Talking about slaves in this context in a society that has seen the greatest wealth increase ever in a few generations is completely absurd.

Workaccount2 2y ago

No shot AI isn't going to be able to fill those gaps. Five years ago I was worried about it, but not really anymore.

financltravsty 2y ago

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reducesuffering 2y ago
Then you're ok with me saying "good they're raising retirement age, retiring at 50 just means you're making a slave out of everyone else that has to support you with their labor for another 30 years?"

Atomic_Torrfisk 2y ago

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joecot 2y ago

It's unclear if the planet will be habitable for the remainder of my lifetime, let alone any potential child's. As everything slowly gets worse, bringing a child into this world, for the sole purpose of ensuring there's someone to take care of me when I get older, is one of the most selfish acts I could imagine. Sounds like a lot of the world has made the same calculation.

reducesuffering 2y ago
https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/please-dont-give-up-on-having-kids https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/please-dont-give-up-on-havi...
positr0n 2y ago
> It's unclear if the planet will be habitable for the remainder of my lifetime Wow, can you share some studies that led you to that conclusion?

chaosist 2y ago

GDP per capita in China in 1970 was $113 per year. That is not a typo. Talking about slaves in this context in a society that has seen the greatest wealth increase ever in a few generations is completely absurd.