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> Of course, if Max had been made using actual CGI he would have ended up as a creaky old relic, rather like the “Money for Nothing” video which came out the ye

> Of course, if Max had been made using actual CGI he would have ended up as a creaky old relic, rather like the “Money for Nothing” video which came out the year after his debut. Instead, Jankel, Morton and Frewer came up with a genuinely iconic creation that has aged surprisingly well. Ouch! Just last night, I couldn't sleep and wound up watching a deep dive on youtube regarding the video, one of the original animators even commented on the thread (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHJj25PBIhg)… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHJj25PBIhg)… calling "Money for Nothing" creaky and old is like criticizing 8 bit pixel art for being blocky. Yeesh.

jimbokun 2y ago
> calling "Money for Nothing" creaky and old is like criticizing 8 bit pixel art for being blocky. Yeesh. Just tell the kids it's a tribute to Minecraft.
- djmips 2y ago
  no Minecraft is a tribute to "Money for Nothing"
brodouevencode 2y ago
Underrated video. Underrated song.
- rapind 2y ago
  Knopfler is a magician on the guitar.
- havblue 2y ago
  Money for Nothing is underrated now? I thought MTV even uses it when they splash their logo. Everyone knows it's great, video as well. I think it's neither underrated nor overrated. It's just rated.
  - jazzyjackson 2y ago
    Agree. I associate this song with wandering the halls of home depot, it is Poe's law in a song, indistinguishable from that which it satirizes (I can't find what podcast it was that tells the story of the band absolutely not wanting to do this video, they hated MTV, "I want my MTV" at the head of the song is sung mockingly, but it's so iconic that MTV co-opted it as their brand - an amazing example of "what you resist persists")
- aidenn0 2y ago
  Underrated video? It got a dozen Video Music Award nominations and won two, including "Video of the Year."
- clwg 2y ago
  Piling on a bit, but it was also the first video they played when they launched MTV Europe. https://direstraitsblog.com/blog/30-years-ago-money-nothing-first-video-mtv-europe/ https://direstraitsblog.com/blog/30-years-ago-money-nothing-...
  - MrDrMcCoy 2y ago
    It was the first CGI music video done by the folks that would do the first CGI TV show. I still have a soft spot for Reboot from my childhood
    - markedathome 2y ago
      Reboot has been posted to youtube[1] and twitch according to the notes on that YT page. In a reddit post on the above[2], I came across information that there is an 8-part documentary[3] on Reboot coming out from September 24th, along with a remaster of the series soon.[4] 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyKRWU_Bdvk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyKRWU_Bdvk [country restricted] 2. https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1fcew8l/reboot_the_90s_animated_show_is_streaming_on/ https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1fcew8l/reboot_the_... 3. https://www.youtube.com/@ReBootRewindDoc/videos https://www.youtube.com/@ReBootRewindDoc/videos 4. https://www.reddit.com/r/ReBoot/comments/1f2ltql/the_d1_decks_and_the_reboot_master_tapes_a_faq/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ReBoot/comments/1f2ltql/the_d1_deck...
      - MrDrMcCoy 2y ago
        That documentary sounds great, thanks! I hope they cover the remastering process, as I expect the challenges of using 90s 3D data formats on modern computers are nothing to sneeze at.
bitwize 2y ago
Old CG has a vibe all its own. Look at the Mind's Eye stuff for good examples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35rjDpBHBxw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35rjDpBHBxw
blipvert 2y ago
There are actually some scenes with a proper CGI Max (at least in the British/Channel 4 feature) where Bryce is working on an early demo, which show how this would have looked!
dfxm12 2y ago
I think the music video actually holds up today, especially compared to some CG even in the 2000s (i.e. The Rock in the Mummy Returns). The 3D world is clean, bright and colorful. Yeah, it's blocky, but that can be seen as a style choice. These characters, microwave ovens, etc. could easily fit into the world of Katamari Damashii [0], for example. I think Max Headroom was going for a different mood, and that style wouldn't have fit, but the style is perfectly fine in a vacuum. 0 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHsFcSNFUMc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHsFcSNFUMc
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jimbokun 2y ago

> calling "Money for Nothing" creaky and old is like criticizing 8 bit pixel art for being blocky. Yeesh. Just tell the kids it's a tribute to Minecraft.

djmips 2y ago
no Minecraft is a tribute to "Money for Nothing"

brodouevencode 2y ago

Underrated video. Underrated song.

rapind 2y ago
Knopfler is a magician on the guitar.
havblue 2y ago
Money for Nothing is underrated now? I thought MTV even uses it when they splash their logo. Everyone knows it's great, video as well. I think it's neither underrated nor overrated. It's just rated.
- jazzyjackson 2y ago
  Agree. I associate this song with wandering the halls of home depot, it is Poe's law in a song, indistinguishable from that which it satirizes (I can't find what podcast it was that tells the story of the band absolutely not wanting to do this video, they hated MTV, "I want my MTV" at the head of the song is sung mockingly, but it's so iconic that MTV co-opted it as their brand - an amazing example of "what you resist persists")
aidenn0 2y ago
Underrated video? It got a dozen Video Music Award nominations and won two, including "Video of the Year."
clwg 2y ago
Piling on a bit, but it was also the first video they played when they launched MTV Europe. https://direstraitsblog.com/blog/30-years-ago-money-nothing-first-video-mtv-europe/ https://direstraitsblog.com/blog/30-years-ago-money-nothing-...
- MrDrMcCoy 2y ago
  It was the first CGI music video done by the folks that would do the first CGI TV show. I still have a soft spot for Reboot from my childhood
  - markedathome 2y ago
    Reboot has been posted to youtube[1] and twitch according to the notes on that YT page. In a reddit post on the above[2], I came across information that there is an 8-part documentary[3] on Reboot coming out from September 24th, along with a remaster of the series soon.[4] 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyKRWU_Bdvk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyKRWU_Bdvk [country restricted] 2. https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1fcew8l/reboot_the_90s_animated_show_is_streaming_on/ https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1fcew8l/reboot_the_... 3. https://www.youtube.com/@ReBootRewindDoc/videos https://www.youtube.com/@ReBootRewindDoc/videos 4. https://www.reddit.com/r/ReBoot/comments/1f2ltql/the_d1_decks_and_the_reboot_master_tapes_a_faq/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ReBoot/comments/1f2ltql/the_d1_deck...
    - MrDrMcCoy 2y ago
      That documentary sounds great, thanks! I hope they cover the remastering process, as I expect the challenges of using 90s 3D data formats on modern computers are nothing to sneeze at.

bitwize 2y ago

Old CG has a vibe all its own. Look at the Mind's Eye stuff for good examples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35rjDpBHBxw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35rjDpBHBxw

blipvert 2y ago

There are actually some scenes with a proper CGI Max (at least in the British/Channel 4 feature) where Bryce is working on an early demo, which show how this would have looked!

dfxm12 2y ago

I think the music video actually holds up today, especially compared to some CG even in the 2000s (i.e. The Rock in the Mummy Returns). The 3D world is clean, bright and colorful. Yeah, it's blocky, but that can be seen as a style choice. These characters, microwave ovens, etc. could easily fit into the world of Katamari Damashii [0], for example. I think Max Headroom was going for a different mood, and that style wouldn't have fit, but the style is perfectly fine in a vacuum. 0 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHsFcSNFUMc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHsFcSNFUMc

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