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>When I buy a device, I don't want a perpetual, tethered relationship with the manufacturer in order to work the device. Then don't buy that device. I know thi

>When I buy a device, I don't want a perpetual, tethered relationship with the manufacturer in order to work the device. Then don't buy that device. I know this will be unpopular but there is an entitlement here. I want X, X comes with insane restrictions, instead of sticking to my principles I will buy X then complain about the restrictions. I agree it shouldn't happen, but I also don't buy anything that allows that to happen to me.

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Supermancho 2y ago
> Then don't buy that device Except when the device doesn't appear to be, but can be updated in a way that makes it obvious it does. Absolute statements like "all devices should be able to be jailbroken" or "I want things supported forever" or "just dont do x" are misguided. The world is more complicated, even on this issue. Any implemented solution will have holes and the world will be all the better for it. Progress requires things to die off.
nullsmack 2y ago
Many devices can absolutely be built in a way that they do not require a dumb remote server to work, but they're built that way anyways because the manufacturer is rent seeking. It can be damn near impossible to find equivalent devices that don't do that. It is absolutely right to get one and complain about absurd remote links that shouldn't be there in the first place.
- thinkingtoilet 2y ago
  If you're financially rewarding them to do it, I honestly don't want to hear you complain about it. Company X is doing exactly what I paid them to do! What a nightmare!
jjk166 2y ago
Is it clearly advertised at time of sale that X comes with the insane restrictions? Is there a viable alternative to X without? What are the consequences if you don't make a purchase at all? There are some necessary conditions to fully consent to an agreement. If someone has a gun to your head and tells you to do something you don't want to do, it is not entitlement to comply but complain instead of "sticking to your principles".

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Supermancho 2y ago

> Then don't buy that device Except when the device doesn't appear to be, but can be updated in a way that makes it obvious it does. Absolute statements like "all devices should be able to be jailbroken" or "I want things supported forever" or "just dont do x" are misguided. The world is more complicated, even on this issue. Any implemented solution will have holes and the world will be all the better for it. Progress requires things to die off.

nullsmack 2y ago

Many devices can absolutely be built in a way that they do not require a dumb remote server to work, but they're built that way anyways because the manufacturer is rent seeking. It can be damn near impossible to find equivalent devices that don't do that. It is absolutely right to get one and complain about absurd remote links that shouldn't be there in the first place.

thinkingtoilet 2y ago
If you're financially rewarding them to do it, I honestly don't want to hear you complain about it. Company X is doing exactly what I paid them to do! What a nightmare!

jjk166 2y ago

Is it clearly advertised at time of sale that X comes with the insane restrictions? Is there a viable alternative to X without? What are the consequences if you don't make a purchase at all? There are some necessary conditions to fully consent to an agreement. If someone has a gun to your head and tells you to do something you don't want to do, it is not entitlement to comply but complain instead of "sticking to your principles".