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Multispectral Imaging and the Voynich Manuscript
- GaggiX 2y agoEverything about this manuscript is so mysterious, the origins, the language, the plants and other drawings; still not mysterious enough that you would that it would be impossible to find a solution to all of this, I can understand the passion some researchers have for this manuscript, is there anything close to the Voynich manuscript?
- gnatman 2y agoThere's some interesting examples in the "See Also" section on Wikipedia, e.g. the Rohonc Codex https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript#See_also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript#See_also
- GaggiX 2y agoI read about the Rohonc Codex and it seems that most people agree that it's a hoax, the language itself doesn't seem to share the statistical property of a real language it seems, Rohonc Codex is the level of sophistication that I would expect from a hoax, the Voynich manuscript is much more than that.
- 082349872349872 2y agofor shorter form lore, known to have a sol'n, there's always the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zendian_problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zendian_problem Lagniappe: https://www.geographicus.com/P/AntiqueMap/zendiaproblem-callimahos-1960 https://www.geographicus.com/P/AntiqueMap/zendiaproblem-call...
- neaden 2y agoThere are a bunch of ancient languages that no one can read yet like Linear A or Cretan and the different documents we have written in them. That represents a whole society whose writing we can't read though, not a (as far as we can tell) one off item.
- engineer_22 2y agoUnrelated: So what are the leading theories on Voynich?
- coldpie 2y agoAs far as I'm aware, there really aren't any firm theories, it's just a completely baffling artifact. Based on dating, it's (probably) not a forgery. It's an incredible amount of effort for the time to be just some person's fancy. There just doesn't seem to be even a theory that fits all the evidence. It's truly bizarre. I love it.
- xeonmc 2y agoMy theory that it was created by Terry Davis in his previous birth. Either that, or https://xkcd.com/593/ https://xkcd.com/593/
- TillE 2y agoIt's a lot of work, but not particularly more work than a scribe would usually do. People have always been people, we've always been creative and intelligent, and I really think the best explanation is that this is just an odd creative work. We'll never know the exact details.
- throwaway48540 2y agoMy own theory: it's a product of mental illness, or long term extreme boredom - maybe a person bound to their bed?
- sgnelson 2y agoFYI: the author of this blog was just featured in an article in The Atlantic about the Voynich Manuscript. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/09/decoding-voynich-manuscript/679157/ https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/09/decodin...
- fatbird 2y agoIt's a good article, and proper scholarly study by this woman is revealing a lot that legions of amateurs never figured out before--such as the strong case that there are five different scribes involved (based on handwriting analysis). That strongly suggests it's not one delusional fanatic's work, but a project of an organization, like a monastery.
- alexey-salmin 2y agoI'm surprised that only 10 pages were treated. Given the level of interest to this book I was sure that all the possible scans (UV, x-ray MRI etc) were performed long ago.
- baggy_trough 2y agoI love the plants that are based on sea creatures.
- nyc_pizzadev 2y agoSomeone was able to translate portions of the Voynich Manuscript but has unfortunately removed his videos. I found a bit more info here: https://www.reddit.com/r/voynich/comments/ev9h5v/does_anyone_have_the_volder_z_videos/ https://www.reddit.com/r/voynich/comments/ev9h5v/does_anyone... This gist is that nomadic Romani people settled around Syria and wrote it. The language and writing is a blend of several languages and cultures. The evidence in the videos backs this up pretty well. Edit, found the videos here: https://www.reddit.com/r/voynich/comments/ev9h5v/comment/joyzs9q/ https://www.reddit.com/r/voynich/comments/ev9h5v/comment/joy...
- joshlemer 2y agoAny idea why they removed the videos? Even the reddit thread you link to is deleted...
- nyc_pizzadev 2y agoA lot of people were speculating he would make his findings official and didn’t want to over share. I do see a comment about his theory being debunked. That would be expected, the language used was a mashup of several existing languages, so it’s possible a lot of what was written is copy-pasta gibberish. However, the video points out of a lot of cultural aspects of the book which support a Romani origin.
- DonaldFisk 2y agoI watched some of the videos in the link given by nyc_pizzadev, and recall seeing them when they were first released. He's continuing the work of Stephen Bax. Romani is convenient as it allows him to pick and choose words borrowed from various languages into Romani over a wide area, so if Farsi doesn't fit, maybe Bulgarian or Uzbek might, whichever is the most convenient. But until he translates some of the VMS (a few pages in different parts of the manuscript would suffice), and his translation isn't nonsensical, he hasn't solved it.
- canjobear 2y agoMany have claimed to translate parts of it. What makes you find this one particularly convincing?
- jdthedisciple 2y agoFor those who downloaded it: Aren't those leaves over peoples heads on p.70-71 clearly Cannabis? Maybe that can tell us something ... Perhaps noteworthy as well is how he nailed those circles perfectly. Also what if the work is an attempt by someone to capture for us what he saw on his psychedelic trips? Just throwing out theories...
- rurban 2y ago> Multispectral imaging is a way of capturing a digital image using non-visible wavelengths such as ultraviolet and infrared. No, it is not. It uses multiple spectrums from UV to infrared, but most of the wavelengths therein are visible. I'm working with multispectral images, and the best ones are still the whites.