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Speaking only for myself: I don't really mind sponsored content as long as there is no tracking and it is not causing FF to be considerably less performant/more

by k_sze 2y ago

Speaking only for myself: I don't really mind sponsored content as long as there is no tracking and it is not causing FF to be considerably less performant/more resource-hungry. The Mozilla Foundation needs money to keep the lights on, after all. I might also just pay Mozilla for a premium subscription that completely disables sponsored content if they offered one (at a reasonable price).

aorth 2y ago
One small way I support Mozilla is to pay for Firefox Relay https://relay.firefox.com https://relay.firefox.com. It's $1/month and you get a lot of value for that. Being able to create email aliases on the fly to keep your real email private is worth a lot to me! I also support Thunderbird with a recurring monthly donation. And a dozen other devs of libraries and applications on GitHub. We have to create the world we want to live in. When I discovered open source software around the year 2000 I was amazed, and it got me where I am today. Engineers and servers cost money. I hope that open source software can survive because I believe in the philosophy and I know there are people out there who depend on it.
- Rinzler89 2y ago
  Mozilla doesn't need donation money from users. They get paid more than enough by Google and squander it. I'd gladly pay them if I knew that my money would go into the development of Firefox and not into the social and political causes of their foundation.
  - nicman23 2y ago
    yeah that whole deal is basically dead
- WD-42 2y ago
  The problem is there is no way to donate to Firefox development. Mozilla’s operating expenses are in the hundreds of millions a year. They might be putting a fraction of that into Firefox, after CEO pay and whatever the hell else they are doing.
perihelions 2y ago
That's great, but the people who *do* mind didn't consent to being made to view that content. (In fact many had tried to explicitly opt-out from it). A FOSS program is supposed be fully under the control of its end-user.
- 0dayz 2y ago
  You do consent when you accept the ToS. And you're always welcome to use some other browser, if this breaks your camels back.
  - Dylan16807 2y ago
    EULAs are not real consent.
    - 0dayz 2y ago
      Legally yes it can and is in many, many cases.
      - Dylan16807 2y ago
        Even in the legal sense, EULAs are questionable. But also I strongly doubt the comment you were replying to meant "consent" in a legal sense.
        0dayz 2y ago
        [dead]
      - Nextgrid 2y ago
        Not from a GDPR perspective.
  - perihelions 2y ago
    - "You do consent when you accept the Eula." Firefox doesn't have a EULA: it's free-and-open-source software—not a commercial service. - " Mozilla software is made available to you under the terms of the Mozilla Public License 2, a free software license, which gives you the right to run the program for any purpose, to study how it works, to give copies to your friends and to modify it to meet your needs better. There is no separate End User License Agreement (EULA)." https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/eula/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/eula/ A software requiring its users to agree to terms typical of commercial EULA's, would definitionally not be FOSS.
JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> don't really mind sponsored content as long as there is no tracking Is Firefox collecting my location and polling Accuweather in a privacy-preserving way? Based on a cursory review of their documentation of this feature, I can't find any mention of privacy.

by k_sze 2y ago

aorth 2y ago

One small way I support Mozilla is to pay for Firefox Relay https://relay.firefox.com https://relay.firefox.com. It's $1/month and you get a lot of value for that. Being able to create email aliases on the fly to keep your real email private is worth a lot to me! I also support Thunderbird with a recurring monthly donation. And a dozen other devs of libraries and applications on GitHub. We have to create the world we want to live in. When I discovered open source software around the year 2000 I was amazed, and it got me where I am today. Engineers and servers cost money. I hope that open source software can survive because I believe in the philosophy and I know there are people out there who depend on it.

Rinzler89 2y ago
Mozilla doesn't need donation money from users. They get paid more than enough by Google and squander it. I'd gladly pay them if I knew that my money would go into the development of Firefox and not into the social and political causes of their foundation.
- nicman23 2y ago
  yeah that whole deal is basically dead
WD-42 2y ago
The problem is there is no way to donate to Firefox development. Mozilla’s operating expenses are in the hundreds of millions a year. They might be putting a fraction of that into Firefox, after CEO pay and whatever the hell else they are doing.

perihelions 2y ago

That's great, but the people who *do* mind didn't consent to being made to view that content. (In fact many had tried to explicitly opt-out from it). A FOSS program is supposed be fully under the control of its end-user.

0dayz 2y ago
You do consent when you accept the ToS. And you're always welcome to use some other browser, if this breaks your camels back.
- Dylan16807 2y ago
  EULAs are not real consent.
  - 0dayz 2y ago
    Legally yes it can and is in many, many cases.
    - Dylan16807 2y ago
      Even in the legal sense, EULAs are questionable. But also I strongly doubt the comment you were replying to meant "consent" in a legal sense.
      - 0dayz 2y ago
        [dead]
    - Nextgrid 2y ago
      Not from a GDPR perspective.
- perihelions 2y ago
  - "You do consent when you accept the Eula." Firefox doesn't have a EULA: it's free-and-open-source software—not a commercial service. - " Mozilla software is made available to you under the terms of the Mozilla Public License 2, a free software license, which gives you the right to run the program for any purpose, to study how it works, to give copies to your friends and to modify it to meet your needs better. There is no separate End User License Agreement (EULA)." https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/eula/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/eula/ A software requiring its users to agree to terms typical of commercial EULA's, would definitionally not be FOSS.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> don't really mind sponsored content as long as there is no tracking Is Firefox collecting my location and polling Accuweather in a privacy-preserving way? Based on a cursory review of their documentation of this feature, I can't find any mention of privacy.