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Uh, I get a mostly blank page with a randomly-placed YouTube icon on the right, and no actual text? Wut? Edit: Firefox on Linux/x64.

by unwind 2y ago

pm215 2y ago
It doesn't seem to display properly on all browsers - I got that on Linux Firefox at work earlier, but Android Firefox seems to manage to display it OK.
- Sindisil 2y ago
  Not always. I just tried it in FF on my Android phone. No luck. Assuming I'm not missing anything, if they can't be bothered to make a simple blog page loadable. FFS.
gpm 2y ago
Try refreshing a few times. It seems that they've managed to partially break the page on firefox. I'm currently also on x64/firefox/linux and it works roughly half the time for me.
tux3 2y ago
Impressive that they managed to make a plain blog post break. What kind of insane Javascript must be running, that a vertical scroll view with text and pictures has been overcomplicated to the point of breakage
- swatcoder 2y ago
  Last time I looked up a function in the Android API reference, it involved a 10MB of file transfer (mostly crude custom fonts, IIRC), and the browser gave up trying to resolve the anchor url meant to jump me to the function itself, so I had to Ctrl-f or manually scroll to actually get to my information. In recent years, FAANG web teams are way more invested in automating things than engineering them to be efficient, durable, or gracefully adaptive products.
  - Tyr42 2y ago
    It was harder to try and remove the default js from my small webpage than it was to spin it up and deploy it. (At Google). I tried though. My button just did a post and I handled that as opposed to using js to do it.
- winrid 2y ago
  Loading this page actually makes my CPU fan spin faster for a few seconds :D
- wmf 2y ago
  I also got a blank page on Firefox so I opened the inspector and found manmade horrors sadly within my comprehension: a bunch of elements that initially load as hidden then get unhidden later by JS (which never runs) and the body of the blog post is nothing but a script tag. What the fuck, Google.
  - 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y ago
    Thank goodness no natural intelligence will be able to scrape and copy the content
- sim7c00 2y ago
  maybe they can replace javascript with rust :')
  - smaudet 2y ago
    Their Javascript must have got wet - it rusted too much...
    - FridgeSeal 2y ago
      That makes it sound like JS is analogous to iron, instead of the damp cardboard it actually is hahahaha
tripdout 2y ago
On the same platform and browser, it displays the header line separator and my CPU fan ramps up but it does load after a few seconds.
loeg 2y ago
If you use the uBlock Origin "disable Javascript for this site," it loads totally fine (all of the content is hidden behind either <noscript> tags or some broken javascript).
dsissitka 2y ago
It's choking on this regex with a "too much recursion" error: var match = data.match(/([\s\S]+?)<div data-is-preview.+?>([\s\S]+)<\/div>/m);
- gpvos 2y ago
  Same here.
- Brybry 2y ago
  There's a Firefox bugzilla entry for it: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1845775 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1845775 And a (closed in favor of the bugzilla entry) webcompat issue: https://github.com/webcompat/web-bugs/issues/125193 https://github.com/webcompat/web-bugs/issues/125193
  - capitainenemo 2y ago
    Uh... wow. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1845775#c14 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1845775#c14 "Long story short: the watchdog thread interrupted us four times, so we gave up and threw an error. This also explains why Chrome is significantly faster here: when interrupted, we stop the regexp, handle the interrupt, then restart regexp execution from the beginning, whereas V8 does scary code crimes to keep the regexp running despite the possibility of triggering a GC with unrooted values on the stack. (The words "manually relocate unhandlified references" are involved.)" That doesn't sound good...
piperswe 2y ago
Works fine for me with no JavaScript, but if I open it in a private browsing window without LibreJS I get what you describe. Funny, usually it's the opposite!
bongodongobob 2y ago
I gave up on Firefox about a month ago. The stupid not being able to copy bug was enough for me. Have had plenty of webpage issues that Chrome and Edge seem to handle just fine. I don't know what's changed lately, but seems as if it's gotten quite buggy.
- spartanatreyu 2y ago
  I gave up on having feet about a month ago. The stupid I hit my toe on the corner of the wall bug was enough for me. Have had plenty of times now where I've ignored that walls might have corners and I haven't banged my toes anymore. I don't know what's changed lately, but seems as if having feet have gotten quite buggy. Personally when I bang my toes against a corner, I don't think about removing my feet just to prevent toe banging. --------------- Reductio ad absurdum aside, if I'm experiencing an issue in a browser, my first thought is to diagnose and fix the issue or find an expectable workaround rather than change to a browser with obvious privacy issues.
  - warkdarrior 2y ago
    The browser, for me, is a tool to view web pages. If it does not do that for some web page, I'm going to switch to another browser to view the web page. Lots of browsers to try to view that web page I want to see!
    - Vampiero 2y ago
      > Lots of browsers to try to view that web page I want to see! They're literally all Chromium unless you think that Lynx renders websites better than Firefox
  - bongodongobob 2y ago
    Lol privacy issues. Best not use the Internet at all my dude. There is no fix for the copy bug. There is no fix for not loading many webpages properly. Firefox can't do it's primary job well enough for me. The other browsers can.

Uh, I get a mostly blank page with a randomly-placed YouTube icon on the right, and no actual text? Wut? Edit: Firefox on Linux/x64.

by unwind 2y ago

Uh, I get a mostly blank page with a randomly-placed YouTube icon on the right, and no actual text? Wut? Edit: Firefox on Linux/x64.

pm215 2y ago

It doesn't seem to display properly on all browsers - I got that on Linux Firefox at work earlier, but Android Firefox seems to manage to display it OK.

Sindisil 2y ago
Not always. I just tried it in FF on my Android phone. No luck. Assuming I'm not missing anything, if they can't be bothered to make a simple blog page loadable. FFS.

gpm 2y ago

Try refreshing a few times. It seems that they've managed to partially break the page on firefox. I'm currently also on x64/firefox/linux and it works roughly half the time for me.

tux3 2y ago

Impressive that they managed to make a plain blog post break. What kind of insane Javascript must be running, that a vertical scroll view with text and pictures has been overcomplicated to the point of breakage

swatcoder 2y ago
Last time I looked up a function in the Android API reference, it involved a 10MB of file transfer (mostly crude custom fonts, IIRC), and the browser gave up trying to resolve the anchor url meant to jump me to the function itself, so I had to Ctrl-f or manually scroll to actually get to my information. In recent years, FAANG web teams are way more invested in automating things than engineering them to be efficient, durable, or gracefully adaptive products.
- Tyr42 2y ago
  It was harder to try and remove the default js from my small webpage than it was to spin it up and deploy it. (At Google). I tried though. My button just did a post and I handled that as opposed to using js to do it.
winrid 2y ago
Loading this page actually makes my CPU fan spin faster for a few seconds :D
wmf 2y ago
I also got a blank page on Firefox so I opened the inspector and found manmade horrors sadly within my comprehension: a bunch of elements that initially load as hidden then get unhidden later by JS (which never runs) and the body of the blog post is nothing but a script tag. What the fuck, Google.
- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y ago
  Thank goodness no natural intelligence will be able to scrape and copy the content
sim7c00 2y ago
maybe they can replace javascript with rust :')
- smaudet 2y ago
  Their Javascript must have got wet - it rusted too much...
  - FridgeSeal 2y ago
    That makes it sound like JS is analogous to iron, instead of the damp cardboard it actually is hahahaha

tripdout 2y ago

On the same platform and browser, it displays the header line separator and my CPU fan ramps up but it does load after a few seconds.

loeg 2y ago

If you use the uBlock Origin "disable Javascript for this site," it loads totally fine (all of the content is hidden behind either <noscript> tags or some broken javascript).

dsissitka 2y ago

It's choking on this regex with a "too much recursion" error: var match = data.match(/([\s\S]+?)<div data-is-preview.+?>([\s\S]+)<\/div>/m);

gpvos 2y ago
Same here.
Brybry 2y ago
There's a Firefox bugzilla entry for it: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1845775 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1845775 And a (closed in favor of the bugzilla entry) webcompat issue: https://github.com/webcompat/web-bugs/issues/125193 https://github.com/webcompat/web-bugs/issues/125193
- capitainenemo 2y ago
  Uh... wow. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1845775#c14 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1845775#c14 "Long story short: the watchdog thread interrupted us four times, so we gave up and threw an error. This also explains why Chrome is significantly faster here: when interrupted, we stop the regexp, handle the interrupt, then restart regexp execution from the beginning, whereas V8 does scary code crimes to keep the regexp running despite the possibility of triggering a GC with unrooted values on the stack. (The words "manually relocate unhandlified references" are involved.)" That doesn't sound good...

piperswe 2y ago

Works fine for me with no JavaScript, but if I open it in a private browsing window without LibreJS I get what you describe. Funny, usually it's the opposite!

bongodongobob 2y ago

I gave up on Firefox about a month ago. The stupid not being able to copy bug was enough for me. Have had plenty of webpage issues that Chrome and Edge seem to handle just fine. I don't know what's changed lately, but seems as if it's gotten quite buggy.

spartanatreyu 2y ago
I gave up on having feet about a month ago. The stupid I hit my toe on the corner of the wall bug was enough for me. Have had plenty of times now where I've ignored that walls might have corners and I haven't banged my toes anymore. I don't know what's changed lately, but seems as if having feet have gotten quite buggy. Personally when I bang my toes against a corner, I don't think about removing my feet just to prevent toe banging. --------------- Reductio ad absurdum aside, if I'm experiencing an issue in a browser, my first thought is to diagnose and fix the issue or find an expectable workaround rather than change to a browser with obvious privacy issues.
- warkdarrior 2y ago
  The browser, for me, is a tool to view web pages. If it does not do that for some web page, I'm going to switch to another browser to view the web page. Lots of browsers to try to view that web page I want to see!
  - Vampiero 2y ago
    > Lots of browsers to try to view that web page I want to see! They're literally all Chromium unless you think that Lynx renders websites better than Firefox
- bongodongobob 2y ago
  Lol privacy issues. Best not use the Internet at all my dude. There is no fix for the copy bug. There is no fix for not loading many webpages properly. Firefox can't do it's primary job well enough for me. The other browsers can.