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How did Amazon (possibly no less "toxic", Idk) embarrassed combative disagreement and sublimated that natural emergent expression/desire during stressful situat
by joe_the_user 2y ago
How did Amazon (possibly no less "toxic", Idk) embarrassed combative disagreement and sublimated that natural emergent expression/desire during stressful situations into something that worked for the company, whereas Intel sounds like it failed to do that?
All that worked (or seemed to work) for Intel for many years - 30+ years of profits and market dominance. I don't know the exact abuse level of Amazon, Microsoft, Apple or wherever but if they're equivalent, they'll keep going 'tell they stop.
The one thing toxic culture seems to do is prevent recovery when a company suffers a setback.
- keepamovin 2y agoThis is a good point. I get it probably gets ingrained, more so than a more open culture that would be open to bettering it self. My view was Intel had a good culture until external pressures resulted in turning toxic.
- joe_the_user 2y agoMy gosh you can read the posts on this thread of myself and others talking about the toxicity of Intel's culture in the 90s. If you're in doubt, I'd recommend David M. Gordon's Fat And Mean for a discussion of how toxic culture persists and intensifies in corporate America. Edit: I think can credit the long period of success Intel had to shrewd leadership and leading in a massively expanding market. The thing about a chip company is that it is constantly gambling on extremely costly investments in machinery and people. Abusive tactics that get good people working really hard for average salaries are really useful and "only come due over time" and often when the company foundering anyway.
- keepamovin 2y agoHmmm....unhappy optimum. How can we do better?
- joe_the_user 2y agoWell, clearly something other than maximizing shareholder value at all costs
- keepamovin 2y agoHow does TSMC maintain a happy culture if they have one? Do they have one?
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