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Do you know of a good source for the footprint thing? Couldn’t find it on the calculation section: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_average_fuel_economy

Do you know of a good source for the footprint thing? Couldn’t find it on the calculation section: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_average_fuel_economy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_average_fuel_economy

SV_BubbleTime 2y ago
First off. Don’t use Wikipedia for such a topic specific thing. You will have to go directly to CAFE, and without being a mfg, I’m not sure how far you get. Second, my source is first hand. I was there as an engineer at the time with Chrysler my paycheck didn’t say Daimler but that isn’t uncommon at CTC, later when we moved to GM I heard the same account. It wasn’t a secret, it was just something no one cared about. Third, it doesn’t matter if you acknowledge my account. Every new body release since 2008 is larger than his previous version. Explain it a different way if you want to “create your own truth” or whatever postmodernism thing you might be into. IDK. Lastly, customers like the bigger vehicles for the most part. It coincides well with an obesity crisis.
- DCH3416 2y ago
  > Lastly, customers like the bigger vehicles for the most part. It coincides well with an obesity crisis. I disagree. I think it's a run away effect. People don't feel comfortable in smaller vehicles anymore so they buy bigger and bigger. In my observations larger folks try and buy smaller vehicles. Similar to how some women will try and fit into clothes that may be too small for them. Some of the smaller vehicles are also easier for the truly morbid folks to get in and out of. Unlike SUVs which you have to step up for. Older individuals follow the same style patterns.
- nradov 2y ago
  It also coincides well with an aging population. Older people with reduced mobility find it a lot more comfortable to get in and out of a typical mid-size SUV than a compact car. They don't like having to squat down. The HN demographic is heavily skewed to young urbanites so they tend to be oblivious to average consumer preferences.
p_d_r 2y ago
There is a table on that page that lists the MPG requirement based on footprint and model year: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_average_fuel_economy#cite_ref-56 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_average_fuel_economy...

SV_BubbleTime 2y ago

First off. Don’t use Wikipedia for such a topic specific thing. You will have to go directly to CAFE, and without being a mfg, I’m not sure how far you get. Second, my source is first hand. I was there as an engineer at the time with Chrysler my paycheck didn’t say Daimler but that isn’t uncommon at CTC, later when we moved to GM I heard the same account. It wasn’t a secret, it was just something no one cared about. Third, it doesn’t matter if you acknowledge my account. Every new body release since 2008 is larger than his previous version. Explain it a different way if you want to “create your own truth” or whatever postmodernism thing you might be into. IDK. Lastly, customers like the bigger vehicles for the most part. It coincides well with an obesity crisis.

DCH3416 2y ago
> Lastly, customers like the bigger vehicles for the most part. It coincides well with an obesity crisis. I disagree. I think it's a run away effect. People don't feel comfortable in smaller vehicles anymore so they buy bigger and bigger. In my observations larger folks try and buy smaller vehicles. Similar to how some women will try and fit into clothes that may be too small for them. Some of the smaller vehicles are also easier for the truly morbid folks to get in and out of. Unlike SUVs which you have to step up for. Older individuals follow the same style patterns.
nradov 2y ago
It also coincides well with an aging population. Older people with reduced mobility find it a lot more comfortable to get in and out of a typical mid-size SUV than a compact car. They don't like having to squat down. The HN demographic is heavily skewed to young urbanites so they tend to be oblivious to average consumer preferences.

p_d_r 2y ago

There is a table on that page that lists the MPG requirement based on footprint and model year: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_average_fuel_economy#cite_ref-56 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_average_fuel_economy...