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How many other UNIX commands did the Swedes adopt into their language? I know that they invented "curl". Do you tar xfz?
by sshine 2y ago
How many other UNIX commands did the Swedes adopt into their language?
I know that they invented "curl". Do you tar xfz?
- lukan 2y agoAs far as I understood, it was part of the language before. The german equivalent of the word would be probably "greifbar". Being able to hold something, usually used metaphorically.
- kagevf 2y ago> able to hold Would "grasp" work?
- octocop 2y agoIt's closer to grip
- n_plus_1_acc 2y agoI've always related grep to grab
- trashtester 2y ago"zu greifen" may best translate to "to grip", but "grip" has different mental connotations in English (it refers to mental stability, not intellectual insight). The best dual purpose translation of "zu greifen"/"gripe" (German/Scandinavian) meaning "zu begreifen"/"begripe"/"understand" would be "to grasp", which covers both physically grabbing into something and also to understand it intellectually. All these words stem back to the Proto-Indo-European gʰrebʰ, which more or less completes the circle back to "grep".
- lordgrenville 2y agorelated to "grok"?
- trashtester 2y agogrok /ɡrɒk/ Origin 1960s: a word invented by Robert Heinlein (1907–88), American author.
- actionfromafar 2y agoYes. "Grasping for straws."
- ManuelKiessling 2y agoWhich leads to "begreifbar", which I would explain/translate (badly) with "something is begreifbar if it can be understood".
- scbrg 2y agoWe do tar, for xfz I think you have to look to the Slavic languages :) Anyway, to answer your question: $ grep -Fxf <(ls -1 /bin) /usr/share/dict/swedish ack ar as black dialog dig du ebb ed editor finger flock gem glade grep id import last less make man montage pager pass pc plog red reset rev sed sort sorter split stat tar test transform vi :) [edit]: Ironically, grep in that list is not the same word as the one OP is talking about. That one is actually based on grepp, with the double p. grep means pitchfork.
- tripzilch 2y agoI learned from bash.org that "tar -xzvf" is in German accent for "xtract ze vucking files".
- Tmpod 2y agoA classic
- Aachen 2y agoParty pooper checking in: easier to remember is that v is the verbose option in most tools, x and f you already know, z is auto-detected for as long as I remember so you don't need to pass that. Add c for creating an archive and, congratulations, you can now do 90% of the tasks you'll ever want to do with tar, especially defusing xkcd bombs! (To go for 99%, add t for testing an archive to your repertoire. This is all I ever use; anything else I do with the relevant tools that I already know, like compression settings `tar c . | zstd -19 > my.tar.zstd` or extracting to a folder `cd /to/here && tar x ~/Downloads/ar.tar`. I'm sure tar has options for all this but that's not the one thing it should do and do well.) I hadn't heard of the German option but I love it, shame really that z is obsolete :(
- tripzilch 2y agoI mean, you're not wrong. Learning what stuff means is good :) But there's also the part where making up a ridiculous story, pun or such enables it being a very strong mnemonic. I know v is just the verbose option, though I didn't know z was autodetected. Way back (~15y or so?) I was reading bash.org just for the jokes cause I was on IRC, I knew what a tar/tar.gz file is, but I had never needed to extract one from the command line (might've been on Windows back then). However, because I remembered the funny joke, the first time I was on a Linux system confronted with a tgz, I knew exactly what to type :) Honestly to this day, I've never needed to create a tar archive, only to unpack them (when I need to archive+compress files it's usually to send to other people, and I pick zip cause everyone can deal with it). But `tar --help` and `man tar` are there in case I ever might.