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> Since Steve Jobs died, Apple's valuation has gone up 10x and revenue about 4x I say momentum. What new products has apple come out with post-jobs? (I think
by m463 2y ago
> Since Steve Jobs died, Apple's valuation has gone up 10x and revenue about 4x
I say momentum.
What new products has apple come out with post-jobs?
(I think apple pay and airtags aren't compelling, and arm is not a product)
Jobs said not to chase money anyway.
- jjtheblunt 2y agoAirpods of all the variations for one example, and those are ubiquitous. AppleTV+ subscription based series, many of which have been extraordinarily well received, for another example.
- MBCook 2y agoWasn’t the watch the first big post-Jobs product?
- makeitdouble 2y agoAirpods' major appeal is the iPhone integration. To paraphrase Jobs, it's not a product it's a feature (or an accessory here), and the core of it is still the iPhone. For comparison the original (wired) earplugs were popular, but not at the level of being a massive business. Apple had to kill the 3.5 jack ("courage") and turn the proprietary integration knob to 11 to have the airpods fly off the shelves. Is AppleTV+ turning profits ?
- philistine 2y agoI mean, AirPods is an accessory to the most successful computing platform in the world. It's a Fortune 500 company all on its own. Do not discount AirPods. People stick to iPhone because they love their AirPods. I sure do.
- makeitdouble 2y ago> People stick to iPhone because they love their AirPods. Wow, I had the reverse course where I jumped off the iPhone train mainly because airPods were doing nothing for me compared to the competition (mainly Shokz), and I also wanted the 3.5 jack (and NFC as a bonus). I still get that people can enjoy their airPod as a good product, but don't see it as massively better than Bose or Sony's product for instance if set in a vacuum, which makes the difference in market size extremely artificial to my eyes.
- plorkyeran 2y agoA feature for your existing product that you can charge an extra $100-200 for and have it sell incredibly well might even be better than a distinct product.
- makeitdouble 2y agoTotally agree. I see the iCloud space upgrade the same way: it's the only standalone way to get a full phone backup, and it's surely a juicy business everybody would want for themselves.
- jsjohnst 2y agoApple Watch and AirPods as two product categories panned at launch which have become power houses. Vision Pro might get there after a couple generations, too early to tell.
- philistine 2y agoLet's look at it the other way around: what new categories did Jobs unveil? iPod, Apple Store, iPhone, Apple TV, iPad. Everything else was a remix. It's five things. People can point to four under Cook; Watch, AirPods, HomePod, Vision. Of course the company has slowed down, it's just normal but it's still innovative.