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You can tell that this isn't about Justice but about bullying Musk because those two companies have nothing to do with each other legally speaking.

matheusmoreira 2y ago
Justice has fled this country a long time ago.
mr_toad 2y ago
Musk is almost certainly offering free Starlink to circumvent controls on X.
- cabbageicefruit 2y ago
  Do you have a source for this “almost certainty”? Because Musk says they are offering it for free because they can no longer accept payments (due to the bank freeze) and they don’t want to cut off peoples internet in remote areas. Are you just assuming the worst?
vitorgrs 2y ago
Legally speaking, they do. Elon is a shareholder there. In the case of Brazil, in the event of a company's insolvency, the shareholder's other company becomes liable and may have its bank accounts/assets blocked, this is a common case law of the Superior Court of Justice (another high court).
- unmole 2y ago
  > In the case of Brazil, in the event of a company's insolvency, the shareholder's other company becomes liable Are you saying Brazilian law doesn't recognize limited liability? Nevertheless, there is no insolvency here. The judge is choosing to pierce the corporate veil.
- voxic11 2y ago
  What company is insolvent in this case?
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  - vitorgrs 2y ago
    In this case, X closed the office to not pay the fines. Usually these decision comes when a company closes to not pay the workers all their benefits left, and the judge then goes back to all the other companies that the shareholder is on, and is part of the "economic group". In Brazil legislation, what matter is if the judge decides that the companies are part of the same "economic group".
scotty79 2y ago
I don't know. Maybe companies should have risks associated with being owned by moguls? Other than being destroyed or criplled on a whim by said mogul of course. Any measure that discintentivises the rich from owning real world things is a step in the right direction.
Daishiman 2y ago
Not according to Brazilian law.

matheusmoreira 2y ago

Justice has fled this country a long time ago.

mr_toad 2y ago

Musk is almost certainly offering free Starlink to circumvent controls on X.

cabbageicefruit 2y ago
Do you have a source for this “almost certainty”? Because Musk says they are offering it for free because they can no longer accept payments (due to the bank freeze) and they don’t want to cut off peoples internet in remote areas. Are you just assuming the worst?

vitorgrs 2y ago

Legally speaking, they do. Elon is a shareholder there. In the case of Brazil, in the event of a company's insolvency, the shareholder's other company becomes liable and may have its bank accounts/assets blocked, this is a common case law of the Superior Court of Justice (another high court).

unmole 2y ago
> In the case of Brazil, in the event of a company's insolvency, the shareholder's other company becomes liable Are you saying Brazilian law doesn't recognize limited liability? Nevertheless, there is no insolvency here. The judge is choosing to pierce the corporate veil.
voxic11 2y ago
What company is insolvent in this case?
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- vitorgrs 2y ago
  In this case, X closed the office to not pay the fines. Usually these decision comes when a company closes to not pay the workers all their benefits left, and the judge then goes back to all the other companies that the shareholder is on, and is part of the "economic group". In Brazil legislation, what matter is if the judge decides that the companies are part of the same "economic group".

scotty79 2y ago

I don't know. Maybe companies should have risks associated with being owned by moguls? Other than being destroyed or criplled on a whim by said mogul of course. Any measure that discintentivises the rich from owning real world things is a step in the right direction.

Daishiman 2y ago

Not according to Brazilian law.