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I understand the appeal. If I wanted to wall-off large swaths of the internet from what I create I would do the same thing. It's not much different then block

I understand the appeal. If I wanted to wall-off large swaths of the internet from what I create I would do the same thing. It's not much different then blocking entire countries. The desire to limit the noise and only allow a "small circle of friends" is also appealing. But I do that for specific services, not my domains in general. Mumble server: only open to the 3-4 countries that my friends are in, and none of the 'cloud providers'. Tech blog: world+dog can see it. I am firmly in the 'We all benefit from shared knowledge' camp. So if my notes on modem init strings for my 300-baud C64 modem can help one other person; they won't go through the same pain I went through, and the world will be a better place. I get the desire, for many reasons. That's cool. You do you.

m3047 2y ago
I wrote the "Zen InterSLIP Dialing Script" and it literally went around the world. Amazon is too large to ignore. I understand that a lot of ICMP and SYN traffic is garbage. I'd be happy to help out and block it (and I do have mitigations in place); in fact I do, by default. That's part of why Amazon is a PITA because they trigger my mitigations "at scale". Amazon doesn't help sort the wheat from the chaff: "send a PCAP (for a ping issue)". I don't learn anything by sending Amazon stuff and hearing nothing. I don't need their good traffic any more than I need their bad traffic... or the traffic which is spoofed which is attacking them. If they can't see fit to help me help them, I don't need any of it. I'm just keeping my life simple.
- Dylan16807 2y ago
  Is the traffic causing you problems though? Or do you just dislike that they don't want to fix this?
  - m3047 2y ago
    Problems? What kind of problems? Discovering word embeddings was sort of a happy accident of LLMs: back propagation "improved" them from a similarly random starting point as the NNs. It's not a technical problem as in overwhelming any resource. It overwhelms me, for starters. Secondly my existing mitigations suggested it, I resisted the move for some of the reasons people here are saying it's a bad idea; I finally concluded the benefits outweighed the costs and I'd try it and see what happens. So far, so good. Once the fire burns out it should be great.
    - immibis 2y ago
      You're overwhelmed by the fact that LLMs exist, so you want to sabotage LLMs by censoring your own site from them and half the internet? Feeding them a site filled with garbage non-facts would have a greater effect. Why do you publish a blog, if not for people to find?
      - m3047 2y ago
        > Feeding them a site filled with garbage I can turn that back on for you if you miss it. I saved the Content Imposition Disorder Study Group website, it's still there.

m3047 2y ago

I wrote the "Zen InterSLIP Dialing Script" and it literally went around the world. Amazon is too large to ignore. I understand that a lot of ICMP and SYN traffic is garbage. I'd be happy to help out and block it (and I do have mitigations in place); in fact I do, by default. That's part of why Amazon is a PITA because they trigger my mitigations "at scale". Amazon doesn't help sort the wheat from the chaff: "send a PCAP (for a ping issue)". I don't learn anything by sending Amazon stuff and hearing nothing. I don't need their good traffic any more than I need their bad traffic... or the traffic which is spoofed which is attacking them. If they can't see fit to help me help them, I don't need any of it. I'm just keeping my life simple.

Dylan16807 2y ago
Is the traffic causing you problems though? Or do you just dislike that they don't want to fix this?
- m3047 2y ago
  Problems? What kind of problems? Discovering word embeddings was sort of a happy accident of LLMs: back propagation "improved" them from a similarly random starting point as the NNs. It's not a technical problem as in overwhelming any resource. It overwhelms me, for starters. Secondly my existing mitigations suggested it, I resisted the move for some of the reasons people here are saying it's a bad idea; I finally concluded the benefits outweighed the costs and I'd try it and see what happens. So far, so good. Once the fire burns out it should be great.
  - immibis 2y ago
    You're overwhelmed by the fact that LLMs exist, so you want to sabotage LLMs by censoring your own site from them and half the internet? Feeding them a site filled with garbage non-facts would have a greater effect. Why do you publish a blog, if not for people to find?
    - m3047 2y ago
      > Feeding them a site filled with garbage I can turn that back on for you if you miss it. I saved the Content Imposition Disorder Study Group website, it's still there.