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The goal is basically repeating what Google did with XMPP/Jabber: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html https://ploum.net/2023-06
by takeda 2y ago
The goal is basically repeating what Google did with XMPP/Jabber: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-netwo...
- sangnoir 2y agoIronically, Facebook was also involved with Google defederating from XMPP, according to an explanation I read many years ago (IIRC, from Larry Page when he was CEO). FB messenger could connect to Google Talk users, but not the other way around - so Google wasn't pleased about freely exporting users' "social graph"[1] to Facebook, and getting nothing in return. 1. The "social graph" was the new hotness then, everybody had to have it, just like AI now. An exec at Google convinced the company that Facebook was an existential threat, leading to some very questionable decisions bourne of a self-induced siege-mentality.
- samatman 2y agoIt remains baffling and sad that Google's first response to this was to murder their best social graph in cold blood. Between giving Reader the axe, and the real names fiasco on Google+, the company has destroyed the necessary trust to ever operate a social graph worth having. Please don't tell me that YouTube is a social graph, by the way. Words should mean something. If YouTube were a social graph, I'd see videos from the accounts I follow.
- krapp 2y agoAre you not logged in? I see plenty of videos from the accounts I follow. Youtube is obviously a social graph. Who you follow, and who they follow, how often you interact, whether you comment, etc. directly influences the content that gets recommended to you.
- samatman 2y agoHave you ever tried to DM someone on YouTube?