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UAE Freezes $20B Jet Deal with France After Telegram CEO Arrest
- NayamAmarshe 2y agoPavel Durov is personally acquainted with the son of the UAE Prime Minister. France just lost $10-20B over the arrest of Pavel Durov.
- KingOfCoders 2y agoYes, there are those with law-over-money and those with money-over-laws, in German the second one is often called "Realpolitik" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik The only other similar jet might be the Gripen.
- csours 2y agoMoney = power coupons International Law = game theory
- paulpauper 2y agoIt's not like it was handed a check that has been voided, and France's GDP is $3 trillion, and we're talking Saudi Arabia. I doubt major Western trading partners will defect.
- toyg 2y agoUAE, not Saudi.
- skeeter2020 2y agoWe both know that's not true. It's either temporary posturing or a convenient excuse.
- GordonS 2y agoThe UAE always toes the line and does what it's told - it's political theatre, nothing more.
- belter 2y agoSo what is Pavel Durov providing to UAE that they consider it $20B worth?
- g42gregory 2y agoAn example to the UAE citizens that their government will protect them. Sense of citizenship is worth $20B. Plus, it's not that UAE actually lost this money. Neither did France. They may lose/delay $20B in revenue.
- trtkaj 2y agoUAE is full of very wealthy expat Russians who have UAE citizenship. If UAE does not protect them, they might go elsewhere and take their money (which probably is at least $300B) with them. UAE would not protect an ordinary citizen like this.
- s_dev 2y ago>France just lost $10-20B over the arrest of Pavel Durov. That's not what 'suspended' means.
- bedobi 2y agocould this not be an "oh no! anyway" type thing? of course it probably stings and wounds their pride but they can't run their justice system on the whims of foreign governments wishes about a foreign app? it's also weird that uae, russia and others rely so much on this tech, esp given that it's probably compromised (both at central level and in individual conversations and groups level) (and private key encryption is moot in the latter case) and how easy it would be to develop a homegrown secure alternative
- NayamAmarshe 2y ago> it's also weird that uae, russia and others rely so much on this tech Because they're not gonna use american alternatives and Russia is playing politics while UAE provided refuge to Pavel Durov when he fled from Russia. In fact, Russia has tried to ban Telegram in the past but accidentally ended up nuking the country's internet instead. Since then, they've lifted the ban since most people in Russia and neighbouring countries use this app. It's also used widely in Iran and countries where there's government oppression.
- cyanydeez 2y agoIf the charges are correct, theyre probably saving a lot more in the reorrism reduxtion
- h1fra 2y agoIt's a posture, either they wanted to cancel or they just want to make a point. The deal will resume after everything settles down. Justice being independent is key to a sane democracy, valuing money over justice is not the take you think it is
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- snakeyjake 2y agoWell at least this fake story was flagged very rapidly... How did it get to position #1 on the front page after 13 minutes and an apparently miniscule number of votes though?
- minimaxir 2y agoFront page ranking is a function of both # upvotes and time. 33 upvotes in a half hour is a lot.
- runjake 2y agoIn case it's not obvious: The Daily Guardian (India) != The Guardian (UK) This article is from the Daily Guardian (India), which is not a reputable source.
- swarnie 2y agoBoth sources are debatable
- giantrobot 2y agoWhat is the Daily Guardian and where's the article's references, quotes, or even links to official statements? Not to say this article isn't truthful but it seems like a big claim to make with zero sourcing.