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One more reason to stop tattooing.

vasco 2y ago
I find it a good litmus test for people. If you want to broadcast your low impulse control and bad decision making history, be my guest.
- deleted 2y ago
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- tired-turtle 2y ago
  I used to think this way, but I no longer feel the signal to noise ratio provides meaningful data, in particular because people do rash or unreasoned things and develop odd habits (that they later grow out of) in their 20s. That part of your adult life is about learning, after all. (I also don’t believe there isn’t anything intrinsically wrong with tattoos.) Moreover, having a tattoo isn’t necessarily a measure of low impulse control. I have friends who have ruminated for years about a certain tattoo. Plus, imputing bad decision making to having a tattoo is more a (cultural) projection on your part than anything else.
  - vasco 2y ago
    Bad or good decisions are always subjective to the goals and context, so of course I'm projecting my opinion when commenting on a comment section with my opinion. I do think less of someone with tattoos than someone without, and I've tried often not to, and have many friends with tattoos and would never ever say anything to anyone to make them feel bad about it. But my brain judges.
    - llbeansandrice 2y ago
      You should work on that
    - maronato 2y ago
      You say: > If you want to broadcast your low impulse control and bad decision making history, be my guest. > I do think less of someone with tattoos And then: > would never ever say anything to anyone to make them feel bad about it. Which one is it?
      - vasco 2y ago
        If you don't see a difference in a thought process in your head that you can meta talk about online vs going to someone and telling them they are less-than or to put them down in another way like not hiring them or something I'm not sure what to say. One is a thought process and a description of it, the other is an offense or something illegal.
- sirsinsalot 2y ago
  I find them a good litmus test for narrow minded, presumptuous, low empathy people who invent narratives to suit their predetermined world view and run with it. My tattoos have worked great so far, even online!
- B4CKlash 2y ago
  Ironically, we use tattoos for opposite reasons. If you're quick to judge someone's character based on their tattoos, it suggests a tendency toward superficial assessments. I find it difficult to trust critical decisions made by someone who relies on such surface-level judgments. In my experience, those with narrow, dogmatic worldviews are often less interested in finding real solutions and more preoccupied with adhering to authority and bureaucratic norms.
  - privacyking 2y ago
    Just for transparency, do you have visible tattoos?
    - B4CKlash 2y ago
      Yes.
    - sobkas 2y ago
      Just for visibility of your comment, do you have transparent tattoos?
      - privacyking 2y ago
        If I had transparent tattoos they wouldn't be visible by definition
        em-bee 2y ago
        i have a tattoo of a cloaked klingon bird of prey
        imtringued 2y ago
        You do know that a transparent tattoo doesn't mean 100% transparency, right? A transparent tattoo has parts inside of it where the skin is still completely visible or the skin is partially visible. A solid tattoo blocks out your natural skin color entirely and is generally associated with criminal gangs such as the Japanese Yakuza or tattoo addictions.
- adamtaylor_13 2y ago
  Yikes. A fairly bad take. Not all tattoos are made equally, sorta like… y’know… people. In fact, many tattoos take months of consideration and require setting aside a non-trivial amount of money. Not that you’d know that, since you make judgements based on the color of people’s skin.
- RobRivera 2y ago
  So the thoughtful ink memorializing fallen comrades advertises a bad decision. AWESOME! I have zero desire to associate with closeminded individuals who view diversity as something to judge.
- shocks 2y ago
  My partner has a lot of tattoos. She has vitiligo so has little control over how she looks. Tattoos make her confident and give her back control. You should judge people less.
  - vasco 2y ago
    My partner also has tattoos. I think people online pretend to be better than they are for some reason. I'm willing to bet every single offended person that is pointing the finger at the bad man that judges tattoos equally judges other meaningless things. At least I'm aware of it and try to keep it to myself and re-evaluate it every once in a while, instead of pretending I never have a bad thought.
    - shocks 2y ago
      Nobody here claimed to be better than you; you just got called out for your judgemental comment. I’ve offered a perspective that you may not have seen before.
    - maronato 2y ago
      You might want to revisit the meaning of keeping it to yourself. The existence of hypocrisy doesn’t excuse you from fault for trying to offend every person with a tattoo.
      - vasco 2y ago
        Online discussion isn't the real world. I'm sharing thoughts in the spirit of positive discussion and didn't offend anyone. Me thinking someone has low impulse control isn't an offense. Me telling them they have low impulse control is an offense (i never said this to anyone). Me being honest about the thought that came into my mind in a discussion board is also not an offense. And I cannot control the thoughts that come to my mind, only my actions after. If anything I learned to keep my mouth shut from this thread, it's the first and last time I discuss tattoos.
        2y ago
- SkyPuncher 2y ago
  Lots of people I know with tattoos are the exact opposite of what you decide. Elaborately planned with loads of personal details, taking multiple sessions to complete. Heck, reputable artists boom out for months.
- nerdjon 2y ago
  None of my tattoos have been "impulse". Planned months or years in advanced, hell I have a large tattoo project that I commissioned the piece for back in 2020 and finally starting the discussion about actually starting the tattoo. I have several other tattoos that I have been thinking about for years. I have mapped out at least a general guide of where the tattoos I plan on getting, likely over at least the next 10 years on my body. Tattoos are expensive. Most are not going to impulse something that expensive. Thankfully most people have some common sense and realize that tattoos are just another way of expressing who you are and not trying to force uniformity. There are still some weird views about "acceptable" tattoo locations but thats another story. I won't even hide my tattoo's for an interview, if you have a problem with it thats your problem and I don't care to work with you.
  - atarian 2y ago
    Have your plans changed with all the recent news about tattoo ink? Do you try to vet the ink?
    - nerdjon 2y ago
      Honestly? I don't know. I mean I am still eventually going to get the tattoos, the meaning of all of the tattoos I want are important to me. So technically no the plan hasn't changed and I am actively talking to an artist about my next tattoo. But what exactly to do about this situation... I honestly don't know yet. I don't even know how I would vet the ink. Just asking if they got it from Amazon sure, but I have to imagine that this is not limited to Amazon and we only learned about it due to scale.
- sickofparadox 2y ago
  The number of comments from people who need their choices validated by a random person on the internet under posts like this invariable proves to me that even they know that this is true and it makes them upset. Classic is/ought situation.
- consteval 2y ago
  I really don't mean to offend and I'm just thinking out loud here, but I really don't understand this mentality. As for most things, there are probably infinite reasons why someone gets tattoos. It seems highly presumptuous, almost egotistical, to presume you somehow know the reasons. You yourself don't know the reasons for why you do things, because choice is complex. You make millions of subconscious choices daily and those choices feed other choices. And then a lot of it was simply fed to you, implemented into your brain and you never bothered to circle back and question it. I mean, just ask someone why they believe what they believe. Not what their belief is, but WHY they believe it. Most of the time they don't know. They can't tell you. And it's THEIR beliefs that they, supposedly, formed. They own them. But you think you can understand other, random people's, motivation? I think there's this widespread, I guess, "deficiency" where people can't say "I don't know". It's like the LLMs. They can't look at something, say "I don't know" or "I don't understand" and move on. And you can see this in so, so many things. Someone the other day asked why gay voice exists and why that's a thing. Truly, I don't know and I don't know that anyone does, even gay men. But of course this other guy chimes in about how they fake it and it's for attention. How could he possibly know that? How did he even come to that conclusion? Why do people do this?

I find it a good litmus test for people. If you want to broadcast your low impulse control and bad decision making history, be my guest.

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tired-turtle 2y ago
I used to think this way, but I no longer feel the signal to noise ratio provides meaningful data, in particular because people do rash or unreasoned things and develop odd habits (that they later grow out of) in their 20s. That part of your adult life is about learning, after all. (I also don’t believe there isn’t anything intrinsically wrong with tattoos.) Moreover, having a tattoo isn’t necessarily a measure of low impulse control. I have friends who have ruminated for years about a certain tattoo. Plus, imputing bad decision making to having a tattoo is more a (cultural) projection on your part than anything else.
- vasco 2y ago
  Bad or good decisions are always subjective to the goals and context, so of course I'm projecting my opinion when commenting on a comment section with my opinion. I do think less of someone with tattoos than someone without, and I've tried often not to, and have many friends with tattoos and would never ever say anything to anyone to make them feel bad about it. But my brain judges.
  - llbeansandrice 2y ago
    You should work on that
  - maronato 2y ago
    You say: > If you want to broadcast your low impulse control and bad decision making history, be my guest. > I do think less of someone with tattoos And then: > would never ever say anything to anyone to make them feel bad about it. Which one is it?
    - vasco 2y ago
      If you don't see a difference in a thought process in your head that you can meta talk about online vs going to someone and telling them they are less-than or to put them down in another way like not hiring them or something I'm not sure what to say. One is a thought process and a description of it, the other is an offense or something illegal.
sirsinsalot 2y ago
I find them a good litmus test for narrow minded, presumptuous, low empathy people who invent narratives to suit their predetermined world view and run with it. My tattoos have worked great so far, even online!
B4CKlash 2y ago
Ironically, we use tattoos for opposite reasons. If you're quick to judge someone's character based on their tattoos, it suggests a tendency toward superficial assessments. I find it difficult to trust critical decisions made by someone who relies on such surface-level judgments. In my experience, those with narrow, dogmatic worldviews are often less interested in finding real solutions and more preoccupied with adhering to authority and bureaucratic norms.
- privacyking 2y ago
  Just for transparency, do you have visible tattoos?
  - B4CKlash 2y ago
    Yes.
  - sobkas 2y ago
    Just for visibility of your comment, do you have transparent tattoos?
    - privacyking 2y ago
      If I had transparent tattoos they wouldn't be visible by definition
      - em-bee 2y ago
        i have a tattoo of a cloaked klingon bird of prey
      - imtringued 2y ago
        You do know that a transparent tattoo doesn't mean 100% transparency, right? A transparent tattoo has parts inside of it where the skin is still completely visible or the skin is partially visible. A solid tattoo blocks out your natural skin color entirely and is generally associated with criminal gangs such as the Japanese Yakuza or tattoo addictions.
adamtaylor_13 2y ago
Yikes. A fairly bad take. Not all tattoos are made equally, sorta like… y’know… people. In fact, many tattoos take months of consideration and require setting aside a non-trivial amount of money. Not that you’d know that, since you make judgements based on the color of people’s skin.
RobRivera 2y ago
So the thoughtful ink memorializing fallen comrades advertises a bad decision. AWESOME! I have zero desire to associate with closeminded individuals who view diversity as something to judge.
shocks 2y ago
My partner has a lot of tattoos. She has vitiligo so has little control over how she looks. Tattoos make her confident and give her back control. You should judge people less.
- vasco 2y ago
  My partner also has tattoos. I think people online pretend to be better than they are for some reason. I'm willing to bet every single offended person that is pointing the finger at the bad man that judges tattoos equally judges other meaningless things. At least I'm aware of it and try to keep it to myself and re-evaluate it every once in a while, instead of pretending I never have a bad thought.
  - shocks 2y ago
    Nobody here claimed to be better than you; you just got called out for your judgemental comment. I’ve offered a perspective that you may not have seen before.
  - maronato 2y ago
    You might want to revisit the meaning of keeping it to yourself. The existence of hypocrisy doesn’t excuse you from fault for trying to offend every person with a tattoo.
    - vasco 2y ago
      Online discussion isn't the real world. I'm sharing thoughts in the spirit of positive discussion and didn't offend anyone. Me thinking someone has low impulse control isn't an offense. Me telling them they have low impulse control is an offense (i never said this to anyone). Me being honest about the thought that came into my mind in a discussion board is also not an offense. And I cannot control the thoughts that come to my mind, only my actions after. If anything I learned to keep my mouth shut from this thread, it's the first and last time I discuss tattoos.
      - 2y ago
SkyPuncher 2y ago
Lots of people I know with tattoos are the exact opposite of what you decide. Elaborately planned with loads of personal details, taking multiple sessions to complete. Heck, reputable artists boom out for months.
nerdjon 2y ago
None of my tattoos have been "impulse". Planned months or years in advanced, hell I have a large tattoo project that I commissioned the piece for back in 2020 and finally starting the discussion about actually starting the tattoo. I have several other tattoos that I have been thinking about for years. I have mapped out at least a general guide of where the tattoos I plan on getting, likely over at least the next 10 years on my body. Tattoos are expensive. Most are not going to impulse something that expensive. Thankfully most people have some common sense and realize that tattoos are just another way of expressing who you are and not trying to force uniformity. There are still some weird views about "acceptable" tattoo locations but thats another story. I won't even hide my tattoo's for an interview, if you have a problem with it thats your problem and I don't care to work with you.
- atarian 2y ago
  Have your plans changed with all the recent news about tattoo ink? Do you try to vet the ink?
  - nerdjon 2y ago
    Honestly? I don't know. I mean I am still eventually going to get the tattoos, the meaning of all of the tattoos I want are important to me. So technically no the plan hasn't changed and I am actively talking to an artist about my next tattoo. But what exactly to do about this situation... I honestly don't know yet. I don't even know how I would vet the ink. Just asking if they got it from Amazon sure, but I have to imagine that this is not limited to Amazon and we only learned about it due to scale.
sickofparadox 2y ago
The number of comments from people who need their choices validated by a random person on the internet under posts like this invariable proves to me that even they know that this is true and it makes them upset. Classic is/ought situation.
consteval 2y ago
I really don't mean to offend and I'm just thinking out loud here, but I really don't understand this mentality. As for most things, there are probably infinite reasons why someone gets tattoos. It seems highly presumptuous, almost egotistical, to presume you somehow know the reasons. You yourself don't know the reasons for why you do things, because choice is complex. You make millions of subconscious choices daily and those choices feed other choices. And then a lot of it was simply fed to you, implemented into your brain and you never bothered to circle back and question it. I mean, just ask someone why they believe what they believe. Not what their belief is, but WHY they believe it. Most of the time they don't know. They can't tell you. And it's THEIR beliefs that they, supposedly, formed. They own them. But you think you can understand other, random people's, motivation? I think there's this widespread, I guess, "deficiency" where people can't say "I don't know". It's like the LLMs. They can't look at something, say "I don't know" or "I don't understand" and move on. And you can see this in so, so many things. Someone the other day asked why gay voice exists and why that's a thing. Truly, I don't know and I don't know that anyone does, even gay men. But of course this other guy chimes in about how they fake it and it's for attention. How could he possibly know that? How did he even come to that conclusion? Why do people do this?