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When are we going to start taking this seriously?

by 2OEH8eoCRo0 2y ago

fsflover 2y ago
Could you be more specific? What are you suggesting to do?
- SoftTalker 2y ago
  Hire more competent technical people and rely less on opaque "dashboard" management software for button-clickers.
  - bink 2y ago
    I work in the security field and hiring competent technical people is harder than it sounds for businesses with small profit margins.
    - krageon 2y ago
      It's hard because your security department probably sucks. And so does your company culture. Do not take it personally, it's certainly why my employers can't find people fit for the space. A large part of the problem is political cronyism and the incredibly tedious culture that develops when you get a lot of people with very few skills together to talk about something they know nothing about. I'd legitimately take less money if I could somehow be convinced an employer isn't a piece of shit. If I'm going to work for an asshole, I will be well paid. I think this is a reasonable stance most people in the space take. That, or retiring and having a communal garden.
      - dijksterhuis 2y ago
        From the parent > for businesses with small profit margins. … > It's hard because your security department Dude, we barely have money for an engineering team, let alone enough people to call it a department. The security department is me when I’m not being inundated with five other things, all at the same time. It’s not like anyone else has a department either, there’s like, 12 people working here in total man. ^ parent, probably. I know it was true for me in “cash strapped” environment
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 2y ago
  I don't know but I think current course is unsustainable.
drdaeman 2y ago
Not until post-scarcity (if it's even achievable). Until then, Gresham's Law is at work, and cheaper products and services that are of barely acceptable quality along their happy paths are going to dominate markets.
dv_dt 2y ago
When they steal money from someone wealthy enough to have connections.
- deleted 2y ago
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- HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
  Is it even possible to steal truly massive sums of money? The largest assets are not liquid, and laundering requires an even larger sum of loosely monitored funds to mix with.
  - tazu 2y ago
    It became even harder once Ethereum became non-fungible thanks to Tornado Cash and OFAC.
    - Dibby053 2y ago
      >Ethereum became non-fungible What do you mean by this? I haven't been following this space for a long time and searching only brings up NFT stuff.
      - hughesjj 2y ago
        I don't understand how Tornado Cash (DPRK tool to evade sanctions) + Office of Foreign Assets control made Etherum non-fungible either, sounds like rambling to me
        tazu 2y ago
        Ethereum (+tokens) that go through Tornado Cash are "tainted" and sometimes censored [1]. This means not all Ethereum are equal. Btw, calling Tornado Cash a "DPRK tool" is disingenuous. It's a privacy tool. [1]: https://www.mevwatch.info/ https://www.mevwatch.info/
      - 2y ago

When are we going to start taking this seriously?

fsflover 2y ago

Could you be more specific? What are you suggesting to do?

SoftTalker 2y ago
Hire more competent technical people and rely less on opaque "dashboard" management software for button-clickers.
- bink 2y ago
  I work in the security field and hiring competent technical people is harder than it sounds for businesses with small profit margins.
  - krageon 2y ago
    It's hard because your security department probably sucks. And so does your company culture. Do not take it personally, it's certainly why my employers can't find people fit for the space. A large part of the problem is political cronyism and the incredibly tedious culture that develops when you get a lot of people with very few skills together to talk about something they know nothing about. I'd legitimately take less money if I could somehow be convinced an employer isn't a piece of shit. If I'm going to work for an asshole, I will be well paid. I think this is a reasonable stance most people in the space take. That, or retiring and having a communal garden.
    - dijksterhuis 2y ago
      From the parent > for businesses with small profit margins. … > It's hard because your security department Dude, we barely have money for an engineering team, let alone enough people to call it a department. The security department is me when I’m not being inundated with five other things, all at the same time. It’s not like anyone else has a department either, there’s like, 12 people working here in total man. ^ parent, probably. I know it was true for me in “cash strapped” environment
2OEH8eoCRo0 2y ago
I don't know but I think current course is unsustainable.

drdaeman 2y ago

Not until post-scarcity (if it's even achievable). Until then, Gresham's Law is at work, and cheaper products and services that are of barely acceptable quality along their happy paths are going to dominate markets.

dv_dt 2y ago

When they steal money from someone wealthy enough to have connections.

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HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
Is it even possible to steal truly massive sums of money? The largest assets are not liquid, and laundering requires an even larger sum of loosely monitored funds to mix with.
- tazu 2y ago
  It became even harder once Ethereum became non-fungible thanks to Tornado Cash and OFAC.
  - Dibby053 2y ago
    >Ethereum became non-fungible What do you mean by this? I haven't been following this space for a long time and searching only brings up NFT stuff.
    - hughesjj 2y ago
      I don't understand how Tornado Cash (DPRK tool to evade sanctions) + Office of Foreign Assets control made Etherum non-fungible either, sounds like rambling to me
      - tazu 2y ago
        Ethereum (+tokens) that go through Tornado Cash are "tainted" and sometimes censored [1]. This means not all Ethereum are equal. Btw, calling Tornado Cash a "DPRK tool" is disingenuous. It's a privacy tool. [1]: https://www.mevwatch.info/ https://www.mevwatch.info/
    - 2y ago