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Microsoft's own FOSS multiplatform implementation of the .NET runtime is now much more performant and feature complete than Mono. However Mono is easier to emb

by dtquad 2y ago

Microsoft's own FOSS multiplatform implementation of the .NET runtime is now much more performant and feature complete than Mono. However Mono is easier to embed into other applications and easier to port to new platforms. That is for example why it's used for the .NET/Blazor WebAssembly stuff. Microsoft still maintains their own fork of Mono for this specific use case. Mono also implements some of the legacy Windows Desktop GUI frameworks like WinForms and WPF that Microsoft never bothered to port to their new .NET runtime. This is probably why the Wine developers might be interested in Mono.

Phrodo_00 2y ago
Mono also supports winforms. I don't think they're supported in dotnet (but there's libraries for Gtk, although you could also use Vala with a bit extra effort).
- IshKebab 2y ago
  Yeah I think it also supports WPF. Can't remember where I read that.
- pathartl 2y ago
  winforms are supported in .NET, obv only for Windows
neonsunset 2y ago
A shoutout goes to a project that aims to simplify CoreCLR embedding UX to prevent the issues stemming from embedding legacy Mono: https://github.com/StudioCherno/Coral https://github.com/StudioCherno/Coral
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lloydatkinson 2y ago
Winforms and WPF are both very maintained and supported for .NET 8 on Windows, to clarify. Good cross platform desktop frameworks include Avalonia.
- kelnos 2y ago
  Are those frameworks available in .NET 8 on non-Windows platforms, though? If not, I think that's what the GP was getting at.
  - grokys 2y ago
    Not by Microsoft, but Avalonia has a commercial fork of WPF which runs on Linux and macOS: https://avaloniaui.net/xpf https://avaloniaui.net/xpf
- qingcharles 2y ago
  I think MS wants you to use this? https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/apps/maui https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/apps/maui I was pleased to see WinForms got some updates in .NET9. I really thought they'd left it. I still use it every day when I need to spin up a new tool to do some little task that needs a GUI.
  - lloydatkinson 2y ago
    The only people wanting anyone to use MAUI are the MAUI team and even then only half heartedly. Microsoft Build this year only discussed WinUI and WPF even. https://www.reddit.com/r/dotnet/comments/1cy2u6l/microsoft_has_slight_preference_for_winui_over_wpf/ https://www.reddit.com/r/dotnet/comments/1cy2u6l/microsoft_h...
    - mark336 2y ago
      Good, I use MVC and it sucks.
      - lloydatkinson 2y ago
        MVC is something entirely else?

by dtquad 2y ago

Phrodo_00 2y ago

Mono also supports winforms. I don't think they're supported in dotnet (but there's libraries for Gtk, although you could also use Vala with a bit extra effort).

IshKebab 2y ago
Yeah I think it also supports WPF. Can't remember where I read that.
pathartl 2y ago
winforms are supported in .NET, obv only for Windows

neonsunset 2y ago

A shoutout goes to a project that aims to simplify CoreCLR embedding UX to prevent the issues stemming from embedding legacy Mono: https://github.com/StudioCherno/Coral https://github.com/StudioCherno/Coral

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lloydatkinson 2y ago

Winforms and WPF are both very maintained and supported for .NET 8 on Windows, to clarify. Good cross platform desktop frameworks include Avalonia.

kelnos 2y ago
Are those frameworks available in .NET 8 on non-Windows platforms, though? If not, I think that's what the GP was getting at.
- grokys 2y ago
  Not by Microsoft, but Avalonia has a commercial fork of WPF which runs on Linux and macOS: https://avaloniaui.net/xpf https://avaloniaui.net/xpf
qingcharles 2y ago
I think MS wants you to use this? https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/apps/maui https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/apps/maui I was pleased to see WinForms got some updates in .NET9. I really thought they'd left it. I still use it every day when I need to spin up a new tool to do some little task that needs a GUI.
- lloydatkinson 2y ago
  The only people wanting anyone to use MAUI are the MAUI team and even then only half heartedly. Microsoft Build this year only discussed WinUI and WPF even. https://www.reddit.com/r/dotnet/comments/1cy2u6l/microsoft_has_slight_preference_for_winui_over_wpf/ https://www.reddit.com/r/dotnet/comments/1cy2u6l/microsoft_h...
  - mark336 2y ago
    Good, I use MVC and it sucks.
    - lloydatkinson 2y ago
      MVC is something entirely else?