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Say what we will about Elon, but him gambling his PayPal fortune was the best thing that happened to the US space program (and the global space race as whole!)

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misiti3780 2y ago
100% - 1 rocket failure away from financial ruin!
- mensetmanusman 2y ago
  It’s crazy how different the world would be right now. Ukrainian generals admitted they would have been defeated quickly without Starlink.
  - 2OEH8eoCRo0 2y ago
    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/07/elon-musk-ordered-starlink-turned-off-ukraine-offensive-biography https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/07/elon-musk... > Musk told engineers to turn off communications network to hobble Ukraine drone attack on Russian warships
    - Diederich 2y ago
      Did you see the amendment at the top? "Update: on 9 September 2023, Walter Isaacson said his biography’s claim about Starlink and Crimea was based on “mistaken” information [see footnote]" Here's a more accurate summary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink_in_the_Russo-Ukrainia...
LarsDu88 2y ago
Having praised Elon, I will now additionally add that he is pretty much a mouthpiece for rightwing Russian propaganda despite Starlink being vital to Ukrainian war efforts. You've truly achieved wealth when even people you don't like and don't like you in return depend on your shit to stay alive!
- TMWNN 2y ago
  Context for others: Both sides in the Ukraine War are using "irregular" Starlink dishes. * Russia is reportedly buying dishes (and the service attached to the dishes) in the Middle East. * Ukraine has its own fleet of dishes (being paid for by the US, after Musk initially provided free service early in the war after a Ukrainian request), but also many individual dishes that were donated, and being paid for, by private individuals outside Ukraine. US law prohibits Russia from using Starlink. The problem is, how to stop Russia from doing so? A simple location-based ban won't work, because the front line is constantly shifting. Whitelisting only Ukraine's own dishes to work within Ukrainian territory might work, but 1) what about dishes that get captured by Russia? 2) As noted, what about all the privately paid-for dishes? Another way to think about this is that this demonstrates just how lifesaving for Ukraine Starlink has become in the past two years. Ukraine could ask Starlink to disable all dishes within its territory. On the contrary, it has decided that the benefits of Starlink to Ukrainians outweighs Russians also benefiting from it.

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misiti3780 2y ago

100% - 1 rocket failure away from financial ruin!

mensetmanusman 2y ago
It’s crazy how different the world would be right now. Ukrainian generals admitted they would have been defeated quickly without Starlink.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 2y ago
  https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/07/elon-musk-ordered-starlink-turned-off-ukraine-offensive-biography https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/07/elon-musk... > Musk told engineers to turn off communications network to hobble Ukraine drone attack on Russian warships
  - Diederich 2y ago
    Did you see the amendment at the top? "Update: on 9 September 2023, Walter Isaacson said his biography’s claim about Starlink and Crimea was based on “mistaken” information [see footnote]" Here's a more accurate summary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink_in_the_Russo-Ukrainia...

LarsDu88 2y ago

Having praised Elon, I will now additionally add that he is pretty much a mouthpiece for rightwing Russian propaganda despite Starlink being vital to Ukrainian war efforts. You've truly achieved wealth when even people you don't like and don't like you in return depend on your shit to stay alive!

TMWNN 2y ago
Context for others: Both sides in the Ukraine War are using "irregular" Starlink dishes. * Russia is reportedly buying dishes (and the service attached to the dishes) in the Middle East. * Ukraine has its own fleet of dishes (being paid for by the US, after Musk initially provided free service early in the war after a Ukrainian request), but also many individual dishes that were donated, and being paid for, by private individuals outside Ukraine. US law prohibits Russia from using Starlink. The problem is, how to stop Russia from doing so? A simple location-based ban won't work, because the front line is constantly shifting. Whitelisting only Ukraine's own dishes to work within Ukrainian territory might work, but 1) what about dishes that get captured by Russia? 2) As noted, what about all the privately paid-for dishes? Another way to think about this is that this demonstrates just how lifesaving for Ukraine Starlink has become in the past two years. Ukraine could ask Starlink to disable all dishes within its territory. On the contrary, it has decided that the benefits of Starlink to Ukrainians outweighs Russians also benefiting from it.