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Mark Zuckerberg: Covid censorship was wrong and I wish I'd fought it

12 points by t0bia_s 2y ago

__s 2y ago
https://archive.is/uN6oz https://archive.is/uN6oz
aa_is_op 2y ago
No it wasn't. Telling people to drink bleach or take random medicine is and will inherently remain dumb. I literally had to spend weeks trying to convince my parents not to take random shit they read about online. Filtering out garbage for official advice from experts on the topic is not "censorship." What a ginormous cunt this guy is turning out to be!
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- DonsDiscountGas 2y ago
  Part of the reason censorship is bad policy is that if the government had that authority it would've been wielded by Trump. With more government censorship your parents would've gotten less good and more bad information, not the other way around
  - aa_is_op 2y ago
    >With more government censorship your parents would've gotten less good and more bad information, not the other way around What are you even talking about. The advice from doctors was spot on and remains the recommended way of dealing with COVID infections.
    - johng 2y ago
      Much of it was also made up. Much of it was just for show. Not to mention many things were censored that we now know were true. Is this acceptable to you? It certainly isn't to me.
      - aa_is_op 2y ago
        Show me an example. I'll wait...
    - t0bia_s 2y ago
      Doctors do recommendations based on your medical record and individual check. Anyone, who follow universal advices by random persons in media was too scare to think rationally or simply enjoy tribalism, mostly driven by politicians and sensation.
    - DonsDiscountGas 2y ago
      > that authority it would've been wielded by Trump This is what I am talking about. If censorship was legal it wouldn't be medical doctors doing the censoring it would be the executive branch, ie Trump during 2020.
- t0bia_s 2y ago
  Filtering content about topic that was polticialy motivated and driven by goverment is basically a definition of an censorship.
stcroixx 2y ago
Of course. Any censorship is wrong, but he already knew that and decided to do it anyway out of fear and greed.
- qarl 2y ago
  No censorship leads to 4chan. I suspect there's a reason why you're making this comment right now on HN (which has censorship) rather than 4chan.
  - johng 2y ago
    I think rules is more accurate. Censorship makes me think that you can post something that is within the rules, but if it doesn't fit the agenda it's removed. To me they are different. I run communities and we have rules. We don't do censorship though.
    - qarl 2y ago
      Hm... sounds like distinction without a difference to me. Posts get deleted because their content is disallowed by some arbitrary criteria determined by an authority.
  - t0bia_s 2y ago
    You confusing content moderation with censorship. Do you consider filtering porn or gore as censorship?
    - qarl 2y ago
      Yes. Removing posts based on their content is censorship, full stop. In fact, the dictionary definition of "censorship" mentions porn as one example.
  - stcroixx 2y ago
    4chan is more general instead of being focused on a domain as HN is. However, I do prefer a fully uncensored platform as I don't trust anyone's judgement but my own regarding content.

12 points by t0bia_s 2y ago

__s 2y ago

https://archive.is/uN6oz https://archive.is/uN6oz

No it wasn't. Telling people to drink bleach or take random medicine is and will inherently remain dumb. I literally had to spend weeks trying to convince my parents not to take random shit they read about online. Filtering out garbage for official advice from experts on the topic is not "censorship." What a ginormous cunt this guy is turning out to be!

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DonsDiscountGas 2y ago
Part of the reason censorship is bad policy is that if the government had that authority it would've been wielded by Trump. With more government censorship your parents would've gotten less good and more bad information, not the other way around
- aa_is_op 2y ago
  >With more government censorship your parents would've gotten less good and more bad information, not the other way around What are you even talking about. The advice from doctors was spot on and remains the recommended way of dealing with COVID infections.
  - johng 2y ago
    Much of it was also made up. Much of it was just for show. Not to mention many things were censored that we now know were true. Is this acceptable to you? It certainly isn't to me.
    - aa_is_op 2y ago
      Show me an example. I'll wait...
  - t0bia_s 2y ago
    Doctors do recommendations based on your medical record and individual check. Anyone, who follow universal advices by random persons in media was too scare to think rationally or simply enjoy tribalism, mostly driven by politicians and sensation.
  - DonsDiscountGas 2y ago
    > that authority it would've been wielded by Trump This is what I am talking about. If censorship was legal it wouldn't be medical doctors doing the censoring it would be the executive branch, ie Trump during 2020.
t0bia_s 2y ago
Filtering content about topic that was polticialy motivated and driven by goverment is basically a definition of an censorship.

stcroixx 2y ago

Of course. Any censorship is wrong, but he already knew that and decided to do it anyway out of fear and greed.

qarl 2y ago
No censorship leads to 4chan. I suspect there's a reason why you're making this comment right now on HN (which has censorship) rather than 4chan.
- johng 2y ago
  I think rules is more accurate. Censorship makes me think that you can post something that is within the rules, but if it doesn't fit the agenda it's removed. To me they are different. I run communities and we have rules. We don't do censorship though.
  - qarl 2y ago
    Hm... sounds like distinction without a difference to me. Posts get deleted because their content is disallowed by some arbitrary criteria determined by an authority.
- t0bia_s 2y ago
  You confusing content moderation with censorship. Do you consider filtering porn or gore as censorship?
  - qarl 2y ago
    Yes. Removing posts based on their content is censorship, full stop. In fact, the dictionary definition of "censorship" mentions porn as one example.
- stcroixx 2y ago
  4chan is more general instead of being focused on a domain as HN is. However, I do prefer a fully uncensored platform as I don't trust anyone's judgement but my own regarding content.