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Additionally, with early pioneer logging, another solution to avoiding having logs which are too large to handle was to not drop them in the first place. In th

Additionally, with early pioneer logging, another solution to avoiding having logs which are too large to handle was to not drop them in the first place. In the Pacific Northwest, US, early loggers would leave the huge ones - to the point where pioneers could complain about a lack of available timber in an old-growth forest. When the initial University of Washington was built, land-clearing costs were a huge portion of the overall capital spend. The largest trees on the site weren't used for anything productive; rather, they were climbed, chained together, and domino felled at the same time. By attaching the trees together, they only needed to fell one tree which brought the whole mess down into a pile and they burned it. I think there's a lesson here about choosing which logs you want to move.

pests 2y ago
Having not read the article yet, this was one confusing comment until I realized by "logging" you meant actual trees and not log files.
- dredmorbius 2y ago
  The "to record an event" meaning of logging does in fact originate from wooden logs, which were used to calculate the speed of a ship under sail. A log, tied to a fathom-line, was cast off the stern, and the number of knots which passed through the sailors hands in a measured time interval determined the speed. This was recorded as "log", in what came to be known as the "ship's log". The term came to be used for event recording in general. This was used as a component of "dead reckoning" (that is, deduced reckoning of position) in navigation, prior to the development of accurate time-keeping and direct position reporting through LORAN, radar-navigation, and ultimately GPS. Dead reckoning was not especially accurate and had some rather notorious failure modes. <https://www.etymonline.com/word/log https://www.etymonline.com/word/log> (definition 2) Chip log: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_log https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_log> Dead reckoning: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_reckoning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_reckoning> Scilly naval disaster of 1707, in which four warships and 1,400 to 2,000 sailors of the British fleet were lost in a single navigational failure: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scilly_naval_disaster_of_1707 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scilly_naval_disaster_of_1707> This directly inspired the Longitude Rewards prizes for developing accurate navigational methods (<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longitude_rewards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longitude_rewards>) and John Harrison's invention of a marine clock (<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harrison#Longitude_problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harrison#Longitude_proble...>). More recently, the Honda Point disaster in which the US Navy, 1923 saw the loss of 7 destroyers at flank speed of 20 knots off the Santa Barbara coast: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Point_disaster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Point_disaster>. It's interesting to note that advances in timekeeping typically translate to improvements in location determination.
rootsudo 2y ago
That's an interesting tidbit I did not know about UW. Sad the wood wasn't used.
brutal_chaos_ 2y ago
Perhaps an analogy can be made with respect to information priority and which trees to fell.

pests 2y ago

Having not read the article yet, this was one confusing comment until I realized by "logging" you meant actual trees and not log files.

dredmorbius 2y ago
The "to record an event" meaning of logging does in fact originate from wooden logs, which were used to calculate the speed of a ship under sail. A log, tied to a fathom-line, was cast off the stern, and the number of knots which passed through the sailors hands in a measured time interval determined the speed. This was recorded as "log", in what came to be known as the "ship's log". The term came to be used for event recording in general. This was used as a component of "dead reckoning" (that is, deduced reckoning of position) in navigation, prior to the development of accurate time-keeping and direct position reporting through LORAN, radar-navigation, and ultimately GPS. Dead reckoning was not especially accurate and had some rather notorious failure modes. <https://www.etymonline.com/word/log https://www.etymonline.com/word/log> (definition 2) Chip log: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_log https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_log> Dead reckoning: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_reckoning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_reckoning> Scilly naval disaster of 1707, in which four warships and 1,400 to 2,000 sailors of the British fleet were lost in a single navigational failure: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scilly_naval_disaster_of_1707 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scilly_naval_disaster_of_1707> This directly inspired the Longitude Rewards prizes for developing accurate navigational methods (<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longitude_rewards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longitude_rewards>) and John Harrison's invention of a marine clock (<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harrison#Longitude_problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harrison#Longitude_proble...>). More recently, the Honda Point disaster in which the US Navy, 1923 saw the loss of 7 destroyers at flank speed of 20 knots off the Santa Barbara coast: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Point_disaster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Point_disaster>. It's interesting to note that advances in timekeeping typically translate to improvements in location determination.

rootsudo 2y ago

That's an interesting tidbit I did not know about UW. Sad the wood wasn't used.

brutal_chaos_ 2y ago

Perhaps an analogy can be made with respect to information priority and which trees to fell.