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I always laugh at these offerings. Even 1gb symmetrical. Most people pay for this and then run it through the cheap Wifi router the ISP gives you that will max

I always laugh at these offerings. Even 1gb symmetrical. Most people pay for this and then run it through the cheap Wifi router the ISP gives you that will max out at 100 mbit.

FredPret 2y ago
This comes with a wifi 7 router
- christkv 2y ago
  I will be surprised if you can leverage all the bandwidth even with wifi 7. Performance will probably drop off a cliff once you move a little away from the point and in cities the interference from your neighbours will probably mean you actual speed is way lower than the theoretical speed.
  - Dylan16807 2y ago
    You shouldn't have tons of interference on 5 and 6 GHz. Even without wifi 7 and just using 5GHz, I think your estimate of 100mbit and that gigabit is too much for wifi is overly pessimistic.
  - bluGill 2y ago
    If you need this speed you should be hardwired not of wifi IMHO. Great for servers. Preferably use fiber to the servers not 10gb Ethernet. I've been meaning to run fiber to my outbuildings, may as well go 10gb+ for that, it doesn't cost much more.
    - fragmede 2y ago
      If I don't have to run fiber and still get acceptable performance, it's just more convenient. Question is, how does it do in the rain and/or with trees/hills/buildings in the way?
      - bluGill 2y ago
        why are you using 7g if you don't need speed? Wifi 7 can maybe keep up but it has distance limitations and so fiber is better. of course if performance is accaptable is the real question. But if you are happy on wifi you can be satisfied with a cheaper plan, or so I'm guessing
  - fragmede 2y ago
    Where the theoretical max speed for Wifi 7 is something ludicrous, if I can only get 800 Mibps actual speed I'm not going to cry that hard. Wifi 6's max speed is also stupid fast compared to most consumer Internet connections.
0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago
At $309/month, something tells me the plan is only going to be of interest to the technically savvy.
dylan604 2y ago
Yes, this my first knee jerk reaction as well. Just because the fiber is cable of a speed does not mean that you will receive that speed. Unless you are trying to serve multiple devices simultaneous, there's very few things that will support that bandwidth. Even trying to use the AWS CLI to move data to/from a bucket will not saturate my available bandwidth.
- Dylan16807 2y ago
  Being too fast to easily saturate is a benefit. It keeps your ping low.
Jnr 2y ago
In Europe we have had gigabit at home for 8+ years (and it is cheap - 15$/month), and gigabit routers are provided by the ISP, why wouldn't it be the same everywhere else. It is not like gigabit is state of the art anymore, we are now starting to upgrade to 10 gigabit at home, 1 gigabit routers are cheap, and ISP's buy them in bulk.
- christkv 2y ago
  It’s not the wired speed it’s that most people only use it with WiFi anyway so they get no benefit of the full available bandwidth. Most people don’t have their house wired for CAT6 or better
  - Jnr 2y ago
    You need only CAT5e for gigabit. And ISP's are giving out gen5 and gen6 Wi-Fi devices.
rjsw 2y ago
I am using the router my ISP provided, a Technicolor one, it happily handles over 500mb/s in both directions for a service sold as 500.
Lammma 2y ago
You shouldn't because you clearly don't understand it. If good/faster fiber is easily available to everyone, this also includes people or organizations who need it and benefit from it. Also just because you coulduse it, doesn't mean you need to but fiber as a technology is a lot better than copper which is the main reason why we had slow internet for ages. Fiber has a lot less issues with powerlines (basically none). Its a lot faster, you can have a lot longer lines without performance degredation like dsl or vdsl. And if these people actually need to upgrade, they can just buy a new Wifi router or use a cable. But with a slow copper line, they don't have any option.

I always laugh at these offerings. Even 1gb symmetrical. Most people pay for this and then run it through the cheap Wifi router the ISP gives you that will max out at 100 mbit.

FredPret 2y ago

This comes with a wifi 7 router

christkv 2y ago
I will be surprised if you can leverage all the bandwidth even with wifi 7. Performance will probably drop off a cliff once you move a little away from the point and in cities the interference from your neighbours will probably mean you actual speed is way lower than the theoretical speed.
- Dylan16807 2y ago
  You shouldn't have tons of interference on 5 and 6 GHz. Even without wifi 7 and just using 5GHz, I think your estimate of 100mbit and that gigabit is too much for wifi is overly pessimistic.
- bluGill 2y ago
  If you need this speed you should be hardwired not of wifi IMHO. Great for servers. Preferably use fiber to the servers not 10gb Ethernet. I've been meaning to run fiber to my outbuildings, may as well go 10gb+ for that, it doesn't cost much more.
  - fragmede 2y ago
    If I don't have to run fiber and still get acceptable performance, it's just more convenient. Question is, how does it do in the rain and/or with trees/hills/buildings in the way?
    - bluGill 2y ago
      why are you using 7g if you don't need speed? Wifi 7 can maybe keep up but it has distance limitations and so fiber is better. of course if performance is accaptable is the real question. But if you are happy on wifi you can be satisfied with a cheaper plan, or so I'm guessing
- fragmede 2y ago
  Where the theoretical max speed for Wifi 7 is something ludicrous, if I can only get 800 Mibps actual speed I'm not going to cry that hard. Wifi 6's max speed is also stupid fast compared to most consumer Internet connections.

0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago

At $309/month, something tells me the plan is only going to be of interest to the technically savvy.

dylan604 2y ago

Yes, this my first knee jerk reaction as well. Just because the fiber is cable of a speed does not mean that you will receive that speed. Unless you are trying to serve multiple devices simultaneous, there's very few things that will support that bandwidth. Even trying to use the AWS CLI to move data to/from a bucket will not saturate my available bandwidth.

Dylan16807 2y ago
Being too fast to easily saturate is a benefit. It keeps your ping low.

Jnr 2y ago

In Europe we have had gigabit at home for 8+ years (and it is cheap - 15$/month), and gigabit routers are provided by the ISP, why wouldn't it be the same everywhere else. It is not like gigabit is state of the art anymore, we are now starting to upgrade to 10 gigabit at home, 1 gigabit routers are cheap, and ISP's buy them in bulk.

christkv 2y ago
It’s not the wired speed it’s that most people only use it with WiFi anyway so they get no benefit of the full available bandwidth. Most people don’t have their house wired for CAT6 or better
- Jnr 2y ago
  You need only CAT5e for gigabit. And ISP's are giving out gen5 and gen6 Wi-Fi devices.

rjsw 2y ago

I am using the router my ISP provided, a Technicolor one, it happily handles over 500mb/s in both directions for a service sold as 500.

Lammma 2y ago

You shouldn't because you clearly don't understand it. If good/faster fiber is easily available to everyone, this also includes people or organizations who need it and benefit from it. Also just because you coulduse it, doesn't mean you need to but fiber as a technology is a lot better than copper which is the main reason why we had slow internet for ages. Fiber has a lot less issues with powerlines (basically none). Its a lot faster, you can have a lot longer lines without performance degredation like dsl or vdsl. And if these people actually need to upgrade, they can just buy a new Wifi router or use a cable. But with a slow copper line, they don't have any option.