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Durov has been shilling his crypto scams while shitting on all those services you're talking about (well, at least Signal) claiming they don't do anything for p
by a0123 2y ago
Durov has been shilling his crypto scams while shitting on all those services you're talking about (well, at least Signal) claiming they don't do anything for privacy.
Considering how he's tarnished Signal, there is absolutely no reason for them or anyone else to back him up.
What will be very funny is the fact that Telegram is pretty much not encrypted (yeah ok, "secret chats", whatever sure) and now that investigators probably have access to Durov's phone, that lack of encryption might come back to bite him in the ass. Can't wait to know what they find and if they do find something, it might be interesting to see if he finally changes his stance.
- foverzar 2y ago> well, at least Signal Basically only Signal + Whatsapp. > claiming they don't do anything for privacy. Well, Signal is kind of a scam in that regard.
- codethief 2y agoHow is Signal "a kind of scam in that regard"?
- foverzar 2y agoGovernment funding? Mandatory phone number exposure? (or did they finally implement usernames?) A joke of a "registration lock pin" instead a proper 2FA to protect against sim-swap?
- literallycancer 2y agoFunding source is irrelevant.
- Synaesthesia 2y agoKind of important for trust reasons.
- kome 2y agothat's honestly quite naive
- tapoxi 2y agoYes they implemented usernames earlier this year. They are fully rolled out and don't expose your phone number. They received $3 million from the open technology fund, which is a government sponsored fund for censorship circumvention projects. https://www.opentech.fund/about/congressional-remit/ https://www.opentech.fund/about/congressional-remit/
- dijit 2y agohttps://blog.dijit.sh/i-don-t-trust-signal/ https://blog.dijit.sh/i-don-t-trust-signal/ tl;dr: Lots of claims, lots of support.. but very little to back it up once you scratch the surface.
- stiltzkin 2y ago[flagged]
- I_am_uncreative 2y agoMust be nice to make claims without evidence.
- lmm 2y agoSignal also has a long history of shitting on their competitors with extremely questionable arguments, if not quite to the same extent as Telegram. The issues at stake here are far more important. Encrypted messengers had better hang together or they will surely hang separately.
- Canada 2y agoReally? Examples?
- lmm 2y agoLook at their blog posts about PGP (one of them is pretty much "when I get a PGP-encrypted email it's always from a weirdo" - not any kind of technical argument, just a straight-up smear), or about Matrix.
- tekknik 2y agotbf how many people sign emails when they don’t work for a gov in any capacity and therefore aren’t likely a target. people in this field tend go overboard with security when really nobody cares about what they have access to.
- Canada 2y agoThose comments were absolutely correct. That PGP failed as a viable solution for securing email communication isn't even debatable. And you're missing the point of the argument. It is a technical argument: The UX of PGP is so bad that hardly anyone bothered to use it, and that the workflow of decrypting the rare PGP-encrypted emails he received annoyed him. What did he have to say about Matrix?
- utbabya 2y ago> there is absolutely no reason for them or anyone else to back him up If you don't uphold the principles all you have to do is wait until it bites you too. What happened to "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
- nick486 2y ago>What happened to "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Nothing. It still is the same fake Voltaire quote used to con overly idealistic adversaires into giving you some situational supprt against their better interest. No institutional actor ever followed it.
- TeMPOraL 2y ago> Durov has been shilling his crypto scams So was Moxie - or do we forget that Signal is doing cryptocurrencies too?