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Between Ukraine and Russia, Telegram is the only choice for Russia. Ukraine has many many other options. What else is there for Russians to communicate with t

by alex00 2y ago

Between Ukraine and Russia, Telegram is the only choice for Russia. Ukraine has many many other options. What else is there for Russians to communicate with the outer world?

selivanovp 2y ago
The problem is not with communication with the outer world. The problem with other messengers is that everything you type there is monitored by CIA/NSA and Ukraine has access to this information. Telegram right now is the only secure messenger that doesn't leak them data on Russian citizens.
- evilfred 2y ago
  and the Russian govt has carte blanche access to Telegram. Russia invaded their sovereign neighbour Ukraine who the f cares about their forums for messaging. yawn.
  - cpursley 2y ago
    Any source for this? He hasn’t lived in Russia for a decade. From what I understand the reason he left is because he refused to give them access. He’d prob be arrested there at the airport as well. I’m guessing you’re in SMS-land (USofA) where telegram (nor WhatsApp) never really caught on? Because telegram is HUGE outside of the US and China, including Ukraine.
    - g-b-r 2y ago
      https://www.kremlingram.org https://www.kremlingram.org
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      - g-b-r 2y ago
        Check out https://texty.org.ua/articles/112347/eight-signsof-danger-telegram-one-russias-most-successful-projects https://texty.org.ua/articles/112347/eight-signsof-danger-te... especially . Yes, it's Ukrainian, but it's very detailed. By the way, I'm not sure what reasons would Ukraine have to make up their accusations: if Telegram weren't entangled with Russia, why would it be such a big problem for them?
  - foverzar 2y ago
    > and the Russian govt has carte blanche access to Telegram That hardly corresponds with Durov's relationships and history with Russian government. > Russia invaded their sovereign neighbour Ukraine who the f cares about their forums for messaging. yawn. What does one even have to do with the other? Feels like obsessing a bit too much over a single topic.
zkid18 2y ago
WhatsApp is still quite popular and it’s not blocked.

by alex00 2y ago

Between Ukraine and Russia, Telegram is the only choice for Russia. Ukraine has many many other options. What else is there for Russians to communicate with the outer world?

selivanovp 2y ago

The problem is not with communication with the outer world. The problem with other messengers is that everything you type there is monitored by CIA/NSA and Ukraine has access to this information. Telegram right now is the only secure messenger that doesn't leak them data on Russian citizens.

evilfred 2y ago
and the Russian govt has carte blanche access to Telegram. Russia invaded their sovereign neighbour Ukraine who the f cares about their forums for messaging. yawn.
- cpursley 2y ago
  Any source for this? He hasn’t lived in Russia for a decade. From what I understand the reason he left is because he refused to give them access. He’d prob be arrested there at the airport as well. I’m guessing you’re in SMS-land (USofA) where telegram (nor WhatsApp) never really caught on? Because telegram is HUGE outside of the US and China, including Ukraine.
  - g-b-r 2y ago
    https://www.kremlingram.org https://www.kremlingram.org
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    - g-b-r 2y ago
      Check out https://texty.org.ua/articles/112347/eight-signsof-danger-telegram-one-russias-most-successful-projects https://texty.org.ua/articles/112347/eight-signsof-danger-te... especially . Yes, it's Ukrainian, but it's very detailed. By the way, I'm not sure what reasons would Ukraine have to make up their accusations: if Telegram weren't entangled with Russia, why would it be such a big problem for them?
- foverzar 2y ago
  > and the Russian govt has carte blanche access to Telegram That hardly corresponds with Durov's relationships and history with Russian government. > Russia invaded their sovereign neighbour Ukraine who the f cares about their forums for messaging. yawn. What does one even have to do with the other? Feels like obsessing a bit too much over a single topic.

zkid18 2y ago

WhatsApp is still quite popular and it’s not blocked.