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Isn't it simple why AVP isn't moving? They don't treat anime-loli-porn content, chiefly VRChat, as first class citizens, if they support those at all. Tons of p
by numpad0 2y ago
Isn't it simple why AVP isn't moving? They don't treat anime-loli-porn content, chiefly VRChat, as first class citizens, if they support those at all. Tons of people have bought and are buying Quest 2 and 3 as well as its competitors with sole intent of using it with VRChat.
Don't you guys all remember that iPhoneOS had YouTube since version 1.0, before it even had App Store? Where would you think iOS would have been if it didn't? No way it could have been like Apple TV+ would have launched years earlier and completely obsoleted YouTube. But to me it looks that that is what Apple is banking on.
- nox101 2y ago$3500 is also a big reason. Why pay that when I can get a Quest2 for $199 new for the anime-loli-porn content?
- RockRobotRock 2y agoThat’s a slightly unfair characterization. VRC kept me sane during quarantine as I suspect it did for a lot of people. It’s also a nice oasis for people with a lot of social anxiety. Sure there’s unsavory content on there, no denying that. So does every platform with user generated content. Have you seen Meta Horizon? It’s no less than an Orwellian nightmare. I’ve seen people form meaningful relationships, and achieve amazing things by fostering a real sense of community.
- pzo 2y agoOn top of that AVP is very limited for 3rd party developer - much more limited than ARKit on iPhone - cannot access raw camera stream, run own CoreML object detection model, cannot even scan barcode/qrcode, pose detection. They openning up some API in new VisionOS 2.0 but only for enterprise applications.
- Der_Einzige 2y agoWatching the same dynamic play out in GenAI. Stability AI refused to cater to this crowd (the chief actual users of their models) and are paying like hell for it. The reality is that coomers ARE the market for a lot of GenAI, no matter how much puritans don't want to admit it.
- deisteve 2y agoits incredible how different the West is to Japan the lack of judeo-christian moral nannyism hardly means a dangerous society but a peaceful one just look at all the accusations on X and calling Japan weird and worse
- sherburt3 2y agoI don't think Japan is a good example of sexual liberation. The fact they have women-only train cars immediately comes to mind.
- rty32 2y agoI'd argue the mere fact that digital mosaic still exists in... well you know what I mean.
- echoangle 2y agoAre you saying Japan has a more relaxed stance on porn? Don’t they have government mandated censorship of nude images? I would call that more strict, not less.
- f6v 2y agoThey’d censor genitals in porn, but erotic cartoons involving children seem to be socially accepted? I don’t know, it’s hard to understand them.
- numpad0 2y agoIMO, the way it is that hard distinction between child and adult is simply not understood. East Asians in general age in way more linear and continuous manner than Europeans for whatever reasons, and that makes it just harder to agree that some people aren't like others.
- Manuel_D 2y agoMeta isn't treating NSFW stuff as a first class citizen either. Most VR porn apps have a roundabout way of accessing them. E.g. you have DeoVR which is absolutely, 100%, intended for normal content consumption and it's just a coincidence that its video protocol is compatible with SLR.
- rty32 2y agoWell, the fact that sideloading a porn app is no more difficult than sideloading a patched version of BeatSaber, which is unimaginable on any "mobile" Apple device, says plenty.
- tourmalinetaco 2y agoThe problem is less that they don’t serve games natively and more that it just sucks for the intended usecase. $3,500 VR headset, $3,000 more than the aforementioned Quest 3, and while some of that is due to the differing specs you have to wonder how much is due to an Apple charge. As for weight, compared to the Quest 3 it’s around 6oz heavier, which isn’t great, and from reviews I’ve read that 6oz and the general design makes a large difference. It should be noted though, AVP is 2oz less than the Quest Pro and may be more comfortable than that, but considering Apple has always been on the forefront of miniaturizing tech (for good and bad) I’m surprised they went for a premium weight in this instance. And finally, app support is minimal and they didn’t allow for enough direct access to ease development, leading to an expensive device that can’t even attempt to find a solution for the problem it’s trying to find.
- pjmlp 2y agoAlso YouTube was already available on Symbian, and other OSes, before iPhone came to be.