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Tim Sweeney is not quite as much of a bro of the people as John Carmack is. Sadly, as I like the guy otherwise.

klaussilveira 2y ago
His tweet on Linux a few years ago comes to mind: https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/964284402741149698 https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/964284402741149698 And Epic's removal of titles from stores: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/12/epic-games-are-killing-off-a-bunch-of-classics-like-unreal-tournament/ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/12/epic-games-are-killing...
- bravetraveler 2y ago
  The Linux bit is so backwards. I realize I'm preaching to the choir. His thinking perpetuates the problem, doing the more laborious thing of supporting Linux will net more freedom
  - ruthmarx 2y ago
    I don't think his Linux bit is backwards. I think he is just saying switching to FOSS software because a company is taking a freedom isn't a real solution, and we should fight to make it so companies can't do certain things, regardless of if Linux or anything else is an option.
    - bravetraveler 2y ago
      Admittedly I lack context. It seems on the surface this is a very loaded topic. I didn't get the gist it was 'switching' -- things existed/were being taken away. Absent anything else, I feel supporting the status quo does just that. Must break some eggs to make an omelet; quantities/plate count/portions matter. When I say 'loaded', I truly mean it. One could argue this in a positive self-fulfilling direction or the other: fallacy, 'sunk cost'. I feel as if this is capitulation, personally, but am clearly biased. Very idealistic, would prefer they be the change we want to see
justin66 2y ago
Given the easy terms of availability of cutting edge Unreal code vs. whatever id is doing nowadays, he's doing okay.
extraduder_ire 2y ago
I think it was someone other than Carmack that was pushing for source releases and linux ports inside of Id. They stopped doing it a while before Carmack left even.
andrewmcwatters 2y ago
It shows in their architecture for their respective engines, too. Unreal just isn't as nice compared to id Tech.
- justin66 2y ago
  Do you develop professionally on current idtech code? Or are you comparing present-day, easily available Unreal Engine code to what id most recently made available under the GPL, which is essentially twenty year old code?

His tweet on Linux a few years ago comes to mind: https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/964284402741149698 https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/964284402741149698 And Epic's removal of titles from stores: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/12/epic-games-are-killing-off-a-bunch-of-classics-like-unreal-tournament/ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/12/epic-games-are-killing...

bravetraveler 2y ago
The Linux bit is so backwards. I realize I'm preaching to the choir. His thinking perpetuates the problem, doing the more laborious thing of supporting Linux will net more freedom
- ruthmarx 2y ago
  I don't think his Linux bit is backwards. I think he is just saying switching to FOSS software because a company is taking a freedom isn't a real solution, and we should fight to make it so companies can't do certain things, regardless of if Linux or anything else is an option.
  - bravetraveler 2y ago
    Admittedly I lack context. It seems on the surface this is a very loaded topic. I didn't get the gist it was 'switching' -- things existed/were being taken away. Absent anything else, I feel supporting the status quo does just that. Must break some eggs to make an omelet; quantities/plate count/portions matter. When I say 'loaded', I truly mean it. One could argue this in a positive self-fulfilling direction or the other: fallacy, 'sunk cost'. I feel as if this is capitulation, personally, but am clearly biased. Very idealistic, would prefer they be the change we want to see

justin66 2y ago

Given the easy terms of availability of cutting edge Unreal code vs. whatever id is doing nowadays, he's doing okay.

extraduder_ire 2y ago

I think it was someone other than Carmack that was pushing for source releases and linux ports inside of Id. They stopped doing it a while before Carmack left even.

andrewmcwatters 2y ago

It shows in their architecture for their respective engines, too. Unreal just isn't as nice compared to id Tech.

justin66 2y ago
Do you develop professionally on current idtech code? Or are you comparing present-day, easily available Unreal Engine code to what id most recently made available under the GPL, which is essentially twenty year old code?