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Greplin becomes Cue - Intelligent "Snapshot" of your Day

115 points by KrisJordan 14y ago

fishcakes 14y ago
The "get this app" link is broken
- simonbrown 14y ago
  Works for me. You have to click it and then click the "available in the app store" button on the iPhone screen.
- durkie 14y ago
  and there's a type in "Confirmation code" on the airplane ticket on the front page slideshow.
  - splittist 14y ago
    And "Administartion". But, hey, the jam looks appetizing.
jbellis 14y ago
So, it's an alternate interface for my calendar?
jonny_eh 14y ago
"Greplin becomes Cue" so does that mean Greplin is shutting down? I thought it was really popular. This look like a totally different app. What about existing users/customers?
- badboy 14y ago
  Atleast I can login to "old" greplin when using https://www.cueup.com/auth#login_ https://www.cueup.com/auth#login_
mtrn 14y ago
Saw a presentation by the greplin CTO last year (http://www.infoq.com/presentations/Distributed-Systems-What-Nobody-Told-You http://www.infoq.com/presentations/Distributed-Systems-What-...) - seemed like were ready to give search a "social side". Now all these millions (billions) of documents just to display "8.02pm sunset"? I'm a little surprised. Edit: After reading the blog post, I'm less surprised and can imagine where they are headed.
sequoia 14y ago
Seems like "Greplin team scraps Greplin, launches new calendar app" would be a more meaningful title. As a side note, did they automatically unregister their application from my facebook, gmail, twitter, whatever, or do I have to do that myself? UPDATE: Greplin still has access to my google account. http://screencast.com/t/c8mQiZMo http://screencast.com/t/c8mQiZMo wtf, greplin? I authorized for a specific purpose and you shut down the app; why are you still holding the keys to my google account? To see google account app auth settings: https://accounts.google.com/IssuedAuthSubTokens https://accounts.google.com/IssuedAuthSubTokens
- tbeseda 14y ago
  You can still use it for that purpose, but only with the iPhone app it seems. Edit: Actually it's the only feature of the iPhone app that is working. The new calendar view is just "Loading..." (iOS 6 -- my own fault)
  - asarazan 14y ago
    I'm the mobile engineer at Cue. Some very interesting issues with iOS 6. Apple went and implemented a method in NSMutableArray with the same signature as one of my category methods. Hilarity ensued, but also a broken home screen. I'm actually really thrilled that the try-catch was able to help the app recover correctly.
- drusenko 14y ago
  Greplin is by no means scrapped. All of that search functionality still exists and is an integral part of the app and website. Think of it as adding a new feature ("What's next") and that being the default screen, with search only one tap away. Also, in what circumstance would it ever make sense for a rational business to revoke your credentials and assume that because they've added functionality you just might not want to use the product anymore? They should just cut off all access and make you go through the whole process of re-enabling it? That sounds like you're demanding seppuku, and I think you're overreacting quite significantly.
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simonbrown 14y ago
There's a blog post briefly explaining it here: http://blog.cueup.com/announcing-a-new-name-new-free-service-cue http://blog.cueup.com/announcing-a-new-name-new-free-service...
takrupp 14y ago
Dang. We were a paying customer of Greplin and loved it. What do we do now? Can I buy / whitelabel the IP? Email address in profile.
yock 14y ago
Color me disappointed. The blog makes some nebulous claim about Cue retaining Greplin's features, but makes no specific assertations about the future of search. If you're retaining those features, why have you made them inaccessible? The Greplin website redirects to Cue, so I can't search now. If search is indeed gone, so be it, but I can't help but wonder why you've cut me off from your service before the new UI is ready for me to use.
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- drusenko 14y ago
  Search is still there and still a huge part of the product. I think they've come to the realization that the future of personal search is in making it so you don't have to use search in the first place -- 9 times out of ten the information will already be there in front of you when you open the app. You might want to perform a search a few times a month, but you'll want to use the new "What's next" view a few times a day.
corin_ 14y ago
Shame about Greplin - I didn't use it particularly regularly, but I loved that it was there if I ever wanted to delve back to something I half-remembered, like a long-lost tweet.
- Terretta 14y ago
  Greplin never worked right for me, couldn't find anything not in the inbox. On the other hand, my copy of "ReMail", the first iPhone Gmail indexer (which got bought by Google, discontinued, and open sourced[1]), is still going strong on iOS 6 with a quarter million emails in its offline index. 1. http://code.google.com/p/remail-iphone/ http://code.google.com/p/remail-iphone/
  - kevinclark 14y ago
    Sounds possible that not all of your mail was accessible via IMAP. Mine seems to work with all my labels. http://help.cueup.com/customer/portal/articles/25915-getting-partial-or-no-gmail-results http://help.cueup.com/customer/portal/articles/25915-getting...
    - Terretta 14y ago
      It's all accessible, that's how Remail (not to mention iPhone, Apple Mail, etc) gets at it. I interacted with Greplin support, they were aware searches weren't finding things that had been auto filed by Gmail rules into labels. I have been annoyed this "for pay" service didn't handle this. (Note that I do not expose the "All Mail" virtual folder through IMAP because that ends up doubling mail.)
mitjak 14y ago
As someone who never used Greplin, I'll focus on what I do like: I found the layout quite creative. The top images of the iPhone remain fully scaled to your browser width, which means the menu below is only revealed when you scroll down. Thus, no matter what the browser size, you're always only focusing on the photos and features of the service, until you scroll down. Quite clever.
dcancel 14y ago
This has to be the worst product launch ever. What happens to the index of personal data they created when I gave them access to all my PII? I can go in and manually deauth Greplin from all my accounts (PAIN IN THE ASS) but that doesn't delete whatever data they stored on their end.
- Karunamon 14y ago
  An app changes focus and you think they should throw out all permissions? WTF?
Timothee 14y ago
The landing page looks nice, but it really doesn't tell me anything about the product. Only if I pay close attention to the screenshots can I infer that it's a calendar that gets information from multiple sources, and that tries to bring up the relevant information. But why would I need an app different from the default Calendar app? Sure you get the relevant info for my lunch from OpenTable and from my flight. But really, that doesn't happen very often that I have in the same day a lunch and a flight with info that just a calendar event wouldn't have. For the most part, I can just pull to get the notification center and most of the same info is there. Side note: I find it more and more common to have that kind of beautiful landing page that are too much about the design and not enough about delivering information.
- pvidler 14y ago
  > The landing page looks nice, but it really doesn't tell me anything about the product. Agreed. I'd never heard of Greplin or Cue and all I got from this site was 'just some sort of calendar app'. Still don't know what either one actually does.
pixelmonkey 14y ago
What happens to the people who were paying for the premium version of Greplin? Are you providing any refunds? At a minimum, are you unlinking their credit cards and ceasing to charge them?
rwalker 14y ago
Our sincere apologies for the confusion - our launch got jumped 48 hours by a press mixup and we've been working all night to get everything in place as quickly as possible. Greplin search hasn't changed - it is still availalble as Cue Search - both in our app and on our website. Web access is hard to get to for the next few minutes - right now it's accessible at https://www.cueup.com/login https://www.cueup.com/login (will be linked from cueup.com momentarily). In the iPhone app, the search functionality has been streamlined and is available as a tab. We still care about search a lot. It's the foundation of all the new features, and it's critical to the long term goals of our service. If you encounter any issues, as always, we're quick to respond at support@cueup.com
- taylorbuley 14y ago
  In journalism, breaking embargos is considered bad form. Which journalist/blogger/publication is responsible for the "mixup"?
- kulkarnic 14y ago
  Robby, congrats on the new launch-- it looks great! Zero-click search is really impressive when it works [edit: actually, this is zero-search search: you get results without searching, simply based on context]. I think greplin can make it work with heuristics + usage data over the last few years :-) Showing not just what's next, but context (when, where is it? what emails are related?) makes this really cool-- something that can very quickly form a habit, perhaps. PS: why show Sunrise and Sunset times?(first screenshot on landing screen) Do people actually search for that? Personally, I don't care-- the day starts when I wake up.
  - pjscott 14y ago
    About sunrise and sunset: that's a more interesting subject that it sounds like at first. The sunrise and sunset times have a few purposes, mostly unrelated to telling you about the sun. First, they make it clear at a glance that you're looking at a visual representation of a single day's events. It's surprisingly non-obvious how to make a user interface's purpose obvious! Second, they give context to the timing of events by subtly matching them up with the day-night cycle; despite the advent of artificial lighting, our species is still instinctively diurnal, and this is a great source of intuitions about time. Third, they look really nice without being visually confusing or clashing with the color palette. Oh, and they also tell you when the sun rises and sets. I guess that's cool, too.
patrickod 14y ago
I'm sure I'm not the only Android user who would be interested in using this. Is there an ETA for an Android version?
- no_more_death 14y ago
  Correct. Having a web version isn't enough.
kristofferR 14y ago
I haven't tried it yet, but this has amazing potential. It has become a service that not only searches all your stuff, but makes sense of it and displays it in an intelligent way.
timmaah 14y ago
The "Personal Training" portion of the demo screenshots says 4am, but is clearly in the 4pm time slot.
speg 14y ago
I can't connect any of my accounts, it just hangs and or errors out. Shoddy app or just too much traffic right now?
- drusenko 14y ago
  It seems like their launch happened 48 hours earlier than expected due to one of the reporters breaking the embargo. I think they are currently scrambling to get everything fully functional, but it may be a bit slow for the time being.
tg3 14y ago
"Safari cannot open the page because too many redirects occurred." - what I get when trying to go to cueup.com or cueup.com/app on my phone.
AndrewWarner 14y ago
Does anyone know why the original Greplin product didn't take off? We have more of our data siloed in cloud services like Evernote. We need a way to search them and Google is too distracted with G+ to enter this space. So why weren't more of us using Greplin?
- niels_olson 14y ago
  trust
- rokhayakebe 14y ago
  My guess is "location." How do you go to a separate app to search the content of your email, fb, etc... It is counter-intuitive. Greplin, IMO, should have a browser plugin and wherever you searched, be it Google, Email, FB it would give you its results on a sidebar. Heck,give me an additional search button right next to Google's: "SEARCH GREPLIN," or "GREP IT."
  - robbles 14y ago
    Greplin does have a browser extension for Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bjclhonkhgkidmlkghlkiffhoikhaajg?utm_source=chrome-ntp-icon https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bjclhonkhgkidmlkgh... I had it for a while, but I just found I forgot to use it and went directly to searching the services instead.
octavecat 14y ago
Congratulations Daniel, Robby and team!
stickfigure 14y ago
I can't comment on the product since I never used it, but the rebrand surprises me... Greplin is novel, short, spellable (pick up grepplin.com and greppelin.com just in case), googleable, defensible, and clever. By most standards it's a great trademark. Cue is common, heavily overloaded, unsearchable, ambiguously spelled ("like, the letter 'q'?), and you don't even have the domain name. This seems like a mistake.
- radley 14y ago
  Hardly. My first impression - brilliantly short name. Equally short URL. It fits the target spot on. Rather envious actually ;-)
andrewcamel 14y ago
I would love to see Microsoft Exchange integration -- I know just I alone could pull in a couple hundred users for you with this feature. In terms of aggregation and presentation of data, this is 100x better than any previous offering for Exchange users.
almost 14y ago
Looks really cool! Any way to get it to grab calendar items from the iPhone calendar? Very few of my items are in gcal, I use iCal on the desktop...
shadesandcolour 14y ago
The one thing that I think is really missing is the ability to pull iCloud calendars/ the calendar on the iPhone. I stopped using Google Calendar and don't have an exchange account so everything comes through there. As it is right now, Cue just tells me about my facebook friends' birthdays.

115 points by KrisJordan 14y ago

fishcakes 14y ago

The "get this app" link is broken

simonbrown 14y ago
Works for me. You have to click it and then click the "available in the app store" button on the iPhone screen.
durkie 14y ago
and there's a type in "Confirmation code" on the airplane ticket on the front page slideshow.
- splittist 14y ago
  And "Administartion". But, hey, the jam looks appetizing.

jbellis 14y ago

So, it's an alternate interface for my calendar?

jonny_eh 14y ago

"Greplin becomes Cue" so does that mean Greplin is shutting down? I thought it was really popular. This look like a totally different app. What about existing users/customers?

badboy 14y ago
Atleast I can login to "old" greplin when using https://www.cueup.com/auth#login_ https://www.cueup.com/auth#login_

mtrn 14y ago

Saw a presentation by the greplin CTO last year (http://www.infoq.com/presentations/Distributed-Systems-What-Nobody-Told-You http://www.infoq.com/presentations/Distributed-Systems-What-...) - seemed like were ready to give search a "social side". Now all these millions (billions) of documents just to display "8.02pm sunset"? I'm a little surprised. Edit: After reading the blog post, I'm less surprised and can imagine where they are headed.

sequoia 14y ago

Seems like "Greplin team scraps Greplin, launches new calendar app" would be a more meaningful title. As a side note, did they automatically unregister their application from my facebook, gmail, twitter, whatever, or do I have to do that myself? UPDATE: Greplin still has access to my google account. http://screencast.com/t/c8mQiZMo http://screencast.com/t/c8mQiZMo wtf, greplin? I authorized for a specific purpose and you shut down the app; why are you still holding the keys to my google account? To see google account app auth settings: https://accounts.google.com/IssuedAuthSubTokens https://accounts.google.com/IssuedAuthSubTokens

tbeseda 14y ago
You can still use it for that purpose, but only with the iPhone app it seems. Edit: Actually it's the only feature of the iPhone app that is working. The new calendar view is just "Loading..." (iOS 6 -- my own fault)
- asarazan 14y ago
  I'm the mobile engineer at Cue. Some very interesting issues with iOS 6. Apple went and implemented a method in NSMutableArray with the same signature as one of my category methods. Hilarity ensued, but also a broken home screen. I'm actually really thrilled that the try-catch was able to help the app recover correctly.
drusenko 14y ago
Greplin is by no means scrapped. All of that search functionality still exists and is an integral part of the app and website. Think of it as adding a new feature ("What's next") and that being the default screen, with search only one tap away. Also, in what circumstance would it ever make sense for a rational business to revoke your credentials and assume that because they've added functionality you just might not want to use the product anymore? They should just cut off all access and make you go through the whole process of re-enabling it? That sounds like you're demanding seppuku, and I think you're overreacting quite significantly.
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simonbrown 14y ago

There's a blog post briefly explaining it here: http://blog.cueup.com/announcing-a-new-name-new-free-service-cue http://blog.cueup.com/announcing-a-new-name-new-free-service...

takrupp 14y ago

Dang. We were a paying customer of Greplin and loved it. What do we do now? Can I buy / whitelabel the IP? Email address in profile.

yock 14y ago

Color me disappointed. The blog makes some nebulous claim about Cue retaining Greplin's features, but makes no specific assertations about the future of search. If you're retaining those features, why have you made them inaccessible? The Greplin website redirects to Cue, so I can't search now. If search is indeed gone, so be it, but I can't help but wonder why you've cut me off from your service before the new UI is ready for me to use.

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drusenko 14y ago
Search is still there and still a huge part of the product. I think they've come to the realization that the future of personal search is in making it so you don't have to use search in the first place -- 9 times out of ten the information will already be there in front of you when you open the app. You might want to perform a search a few times a month, but you'll want to use the new "What's next" view a few times a day.

corin_ 14y ago

Shame about Greplin - I didn't use it particularly regularly, but I loved that it was there if I ever wanted to delve back to something I half-remembered, like a long-lost tweet.

Terretta 14y ago
Greplin never worked right for me, couldn't find anything not in the inbox. On the other hand, my copy of "ReMail", the first iPhone Gmail indexer (which got bought by Google, discontinued, and open sourced[1]), is still going strong on iOS 6 with a quarter million emails in its offline index. 1. http://code.google.com/p/remail-iphone/ http://code.google.com/p/remail-iphone/
- kevinclark 14y ago
  Sounds possible that not all of your mail was accessible via IMAP. Mine seems to work with all my labels. http://help.cueup.com/customer/portal/articles/25915-getting-partial-or-no-gmail-results http://help.cueup.com/customer/portal/articles/25915-getting...
  - Terretta 14y ago
    It's all accessible, that's how Remail (not to mention iPhone, Apple Mail, etc) gets at it. I interacted with Greplin support, they were aware searches weren't finding things that had been auto filed by Gmail rules into labels. I have been annoyed this "for pay" service didn't handle this. (Note that I do not expose the "All Mail" virtual folder through IMAP because that ends up doubling mail.)

mitjak 14y ago

As someone who never used Greplin, I'll focus on what I do like: I found the layout quite creative. The top images of the iPhone remain fully scaled to your browser width, which means the menu below is only revealed when you scroll down. Thus, no matter what the browser size, you're always only focusing on the photos and features of the service, until you scroll down. Quite clever.

dcancel 14y ago

This has to be the worst product launch ever. What happens to the index of personal data they created when I gave them access to all my PII? I can go in and manually deauth Greplin from all my accounts (PAIN IN THE ASS) but that doesn't delete whatever data they stored on their end.

Karunamon 14y ago
An app changes focus and you think they should throw out all permissions? WTF?

Timothee 14y ago

The landing page looks nice, but it really doesn't tell me anything about the product. Only if I pay close attention to the screenshots can I infer that it's a calendar that gets information from multiple sources, and that tries to bring up the relevant information. But why would I need an app different from the default Calendar app? Sure you get the relevant info for my lunch from OpenTable and from my flight. But really, that doesn't happen very often that I have in the same day a lunch and a flight with info that just a calendar event wouldn't have. For the most part, I can just pull to get the notification center and most of the same info is there. Side note: I find it more and more common to have that kind of beautiful landing page that are too much about the design and not enough about delivering information.

pvidler 14y ago
> The landing page looks nice, but it really doesn't tell me anything about the product. Agreed. I'd never heard of Greplin or Cue and all I got from this site was 'just some sort of calendar app'. Still don't know what either one actually does.

pixelmonkey 14y ago

What happens to the people who were paying for the premium version of Greplin? Are you providing any refunds? At a minimum, are you unlinking their credit cards and ceasing to charge them?

rwalker 14y ago

Our sincere apologies for the confusion - our launch got jumped 48 hours by a press mixup and we've been working all night to get everything in place as quickly as possible. Greplin search hasn't changed - it is still availalble as Cue Search - both in our app and on our website. Web access is hard to get to for the next few minutes - right now it's accessible at https://www.cueup.com/login https://www.cueup.com/login (will be linked from cueup.com momentarily). In the iPhone app, the search functionality has been streamlined and is available as a tab. We still care about search a lot. It's the foundation of all the new features, and it's critical to the long term goals of our service. If you encounter any issues, as always, we're quick to respond at support@cueup.com

taylorbuley 14y ago
In journalism, breaking embargos is considered bad form. Which journalist/blogger/publication is responsible for the "mixup"?
kulkarnic 14y ago
Robby, congrats on the new launch-- it looks great! Zero-click search is really impressive when it works [edit: actually, this is zero-search search: you get results without searching, simply based on context]. I think greplin can make it work with heuristics + usage data over the last few years :-) Showing not just what's next, but context (when, where is it? what emails are related?) makes this really cool-- something that can very quickly form a habit, perhaps. PS: why show Sunrise and Sunset times?(first screenshot on landing screen) Do people actually search for that? Personally, I don't care-- the day starts when I wake up.
- pjscott 14y ago
  About sunrise and sunset: that's a more interesting subject that it sounds like at first. The sunrise and sunset times have a few purposes, mostly unrelated to telling you about the sun. First, they make it clear at a glance that you're looking at a visual representation of a single day's events. It's surprisingly non-obvious how to make a user interface's purpose obvious! Second, they give context to the timing of events by subtly matching them up with the day-night cycle; despite the advent of artificial lighting, our species is still instinctively diurnal, and this is a great source of intuitions about time. Third, they look really nice without being visually confusing or clashing with the color palette. Oh, and they also tell you when the sun rises and sets. I guess that's cool, too.

patrickod 14y ago

I'm sure I'm not the only Android user who would be interested in using this. Is there an ETA for an Android version?

no_more_death 14y ago
Correct. Having a web version isn't enough.

kristofferR 14y ago

I haven't tried it yet, but this has amazing potential. It has become a service that not only searches all your stuff, but makes sense of it and displays it in an intelligent way.

timmaah 14y ago

The "Personal Training" portion of the demo screenshots says 4am, but is clearly in the 4pm time slot.

speg 14y ago

I can't connect any of my accounts, it just hangs and or errors out. Shoddy app or just too much traffic right now?

drusenko 14y ago
It seems like their launch happened 48 hours earlier than expected due to one of the reporters breaking the embargo. I think they are currently scrambling to get everything fully functional, but it may be a bit slow for the time being.

tg3 14y ago

"Safari cannot open the page because too many redirects occurred." - what I get when trying to go to cueup.com or cueup.com/app on my phone.

AndrewWarner 14y ago

Does anyone know why the original Greplin product didn't take off? We have more of our data siloed in cloud services like Evernote. We need a way to search them and Google is too distracted with G+ to enter this space. So why weren't more of us using Greplin?

niels_olson 14y ago
trust
rokhayakebe 14y ago
My guess is "location." How do you go to a separate app to search the content of your email, fb, etc... It is counter-intuitive. Greplin, IMO, should have a browser plugin and wherever you searched, be it Google, Email, FB it would give you its results on a sidebar. Heck,give me an additional search button right next to Google's: "SEARCH GREPLIN," or "GREP IT."
- robbles 14y ago
  Greplin does have a browser extension for Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bjclhonkhgkidmlkghlkiffhoikhaajg?utm_source=chrome-ntp-icon https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bjclhonkhgkidmlkgh... I had it for a while, but I just found I forgot to use it and went directly to searching the services instead.

octavecat 14y ago

Congratulations Daniel, Robby and team!

stickfigure 14y ago

I can't comment on the product since I never used it, but the rebrand surprises me... Greplin is novel, short, spellable (pick up grepplin.com and greppelin.com just in case), googleable, defensible, and clever. By most standards it's a great trademark. Cue is common, heavily overloaded, unsearchable, ambiguously spelled ("like, the letter 'q'?), and you don't even have the domain name. This seems like a mistake.

radley 14y ago
Hardly. My first impression - brilliantly short name. Equally short URL. It fits the target spot on. Rather envious actually ;-)

andrewcamel 14y ago

I would love to see Microsoft Exchange integration -- I know just I alone could pull in a couple hundred users for you with this feature. In terms of aggregation and presentation of data, this is 100x better than any previous offering for Exchange users.

almost 14y ago

Looks really cool! Any way to get it to grab calendar items from the iPhone calendar? Very few of my items are in gcal, I use iCal on the desktop...

shadesandcolour 14y ago

The one thing that I think is really missing is the ability to pull iCloud calendars/ the calendar on the iPhone. I stopped using Google Calendar and don't have an exchange account so everything comes through there. As it is right now, Cue just tells me about my facebook friends' birthdays.