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My car is from before this time but I've driven a few rentals with these features and it is absolutely terrible. Feels like you're driving a theme park ride, wi

by brnt 2y ago

My car is from before this time but I've driven a few rentals with these features and it is absolutely terrible. Feels like you're driving a theme park ride, with all that flashing and beeping. What's also terrible is how they're constantly correcting the steering wheel because of invariably incorrect lane detection and one car would even happily overcorrect but then steer me right over the opposite line because it would never correct its own manoeuvres. I will never buy a car like this and I will happily drive second hand vehicles instead. No way. Car manufacturers just suck at software, always have and always will, and these systems make everything worse and less safe.

seanmcdirmid 2y ago
You can drive without lane assist in most cases. Many models require you to explicitly turn it on each time you want to use it (like cruise control).
- brnt 2y ago
  I'm in Europe, so no, it's mandatory that it is on and impossible to disable for new models.
  - soco 2y ago
    Care to explain what you mean with "mandatory" and "impossible"? I just bought a new car after test driving a few, all hybrids so no vintage, and in NONE of them it was mandatory on, and also could be enabled and disabled at will - I tried that feature too.
    - dns_snek 2y ago
      I think what they mean is that the features re-enable themselves every time they start the car. In the EU these features, and that behavior, have been mandatory for all vehicles released since 2022. 4. Advanced emergency braking systems and emergency lane-keeping systems shall meet the following requirements in particular: (a) it shall only be possible to switch off such systems one at a time by a sequence of actions to be carried out by the driver; (b) the systems shall be in normal operation mode upon each activation of the vehicle master control switch; (c) it shall be possible to easily suppress audible warnings, but such action shall not at the same time suppress system functions other than audible warnings; (d) it shall be possible for the driver to override such systems. [1] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX:32019R2144 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX:32...
NBJack 2y ago
I've had that problem, especially in construction areas temporarily routing around the painted lines. Kinda scary when you feel the wheel veer you into oncoming traffic.

by brnt 2y ago

seanmcdirmid 2y ago

You can drive without lane assist in most cases. Many models require you to explicitly turn it on each time you want to use it (like cruise control).

brnt 2y ago
I'm in Europe, so no, it's mandatory that it is on and impossible to disable for new models.
- soco 2y ago
  Care to explain what you mean with "mandatory" and "impossible"? I just bought a new car after test driving a few, all hybrids so no vintage, and in NONE of them it was mandatory on, and also could be enabled and disabled at will - I tried that feature too.
  - dns_snek 2y ago
    I think what they mean is that the features re-enable themselves every time they start the car. In the EU these features, and that behavior, have been mandatory for all vehicles released since 2022. 4. Advanced emergency braking systems and emergency lane-keeping systems shall meet the following requirements in particular: (a) it shall only be possible to switch off such systems one at a time by a sequence of actions to be carried out by the driver; (b) the systems shall be in normal operation mode upon each activation of the vehicle master control switch; (c) it shall be possible to easily suppress audible warnings, but such action shall not at the same time suppress system functions other than audible warnings; (d) it shall be possible for the driver to override such systems. [1] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX:32019R2144 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX:32...

NBJack 2y ago

I've had that problem, especially in construction areas temporarily routing around the painted lines. Kinda scary when you feel the wheel veer you into oncoming traffic.