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Midjourney web experience is now open to everyone
- meetpateltech 2y ago> The Midjourney web experience is now open to everyone. We're also temporarily turning on free trials to let you check it out. Have fun! https://x.com/midjourney/status/1826305298560418171 https://x.com/midjourney/status/1826305298560418171
- Jack5500 2y agoWhat the really need is user management, so big corps can adopt it. Currently with the user self-service it‘s a no-go.
- danielbln 2y agoFor a company workshop I wanted to pay for Midjourney to invite a bot into a private Discord with the workshop participants. We couldn't find a way of using it as a company account, and ultimately every participant had to get a sub, which was less than ideal. If it was today I would have them use Flux in some hosted version.
- pizzathyme 2y agoThis is a interesting company to watch in the Gen AI space since they don't have all the same restrictions as the bigger companies. Crazy this took them so long, and also crazy that they got so far through a very confusing Discord experience.
- paxys 2y agoCrazier still that they have been able to achieve what they have with zero external funding.
- golergka 2y agoUsing discord is a great way to focus on what's important and get not great, but good enough ux and community tools basically for free.
- derefr 2y agoThat and you get user observability for free, and support injection in a way that to this day there’s no good way to do in an “app” experience. Presuming your bot requires people to interact with it in public channels, your CSRs can then just sit in those channels watching people using the bot, and step in if they’re struggling. It’s a far more impactful way to leverage support staff than sticking a support interface on your website and hoping people will reach out through it. It’s actually akin to the benefit of a physically-situated product demo experience, e.g. the product tables at an Apple Store. And, also like an Apple Store, customers can also watch what one-another are doing/attempting, and so can both learn from one another, and act as informal support for one-another.
- smusamashah 2y agoWhat do you mean by no restrictions? My account was flagged and under review after using two bold prompts.
- matsemann 2y agoThe company doesn't have the same restrictions. They're not talking about the ai model.
- rambojohnson 2y agowhat do you mean they don't have restrictions?
- matsemann 2y agoGoogle, Facebook, Microsoft etc all have to shoehorn these things into their products to stay on top, but it's not their core business and they don't want it to take away from their ads or licenses they sell. Midjourney as a company is much freer to innovate without the burden of the restrictions of an established company.
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- seatac76 2y agoTry creating something mocking Xi Jinping.
- thot_experiment 2y agowait really? i'm not gonna sign up for midjourney but it's surprising to me that this would be restricted
- demadog 2y agoYep - they self-censor themselves according to China's whims, just so they can have China access now only to be banned by the great firewall 1 year from now after Chines startups scrape all their image outputs for training.
- rchaud 2y agoWhy is AI needed for that? Political satire doesn't require anything more than adding a text balloon to an already existing picture.
- yas_hmaheshwari 2y agoHaha, that was the craziest part about signing on midjourney, when you have to sign up via Discord I don't use Discord on my office laptop, and that was very odd experience
- xwowsersx 2y agoWhat was the confusing Discord experience? Was it that Discord was the main way to access Midjourney, and it was chaotic? I vaguely remember this, but didn't spend much time there.
- qntmfred 2y agoThe very fact that it was on discord in the first place was enough for me.
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- demadog 2y agoThe only restrictions they have are that you can't imagine President Xi, nor can you mention anything PG-13 like bathing suits.
- Suppafly 2y ago>nor can you mention anything PG-13 like bathing suits. That's like the killer use case for image generating AIs
- wordofx 2y ago> space since they don't have all the same restrictions as the bigger companies. Can you give an example? Midjourney is heavily censored so it seems like it has a lot of restrictions.
- seattle_spring 2y agoWhat are some examples of behaviors that would exemplify their heavy censorship?
- juped 2y agotry generating with the prompt "a spoony bard and a licentious howler", if you're willing to catch a ban for using ted woolsey's horrible, offensive language that was acceptable to 1990s nintendo of america
- jpalomaki 2y agoMaybe they got so far thanks to the Discord approach. When you went to the Discord, you immediately got the endless stream of great looking stuff other people were generating. This was quite powerful way to show what is possible. I bet one challenge for getting new users engaged with these tools is that you try to generate something, get bad results, get disappointed and never come back.
- Filligree 2y agoThat's exactly true, and having built a similar bot for friends and acquaintances to use, the effect in question is huge. It makes no sense to go for a webapp first, second or even third.
- BonoboIO 2y agoThey did a clever thing, they used Discord and their servers as CDN No hosting of the generated pictures, just send them via discord message and forget them. No S3 or big cloud lambda functions. Easy to start to make a minimal working prototype.
- k8sToGo 2y agoLooks like I still need a discord or a google account and can't just use regular email?
- layer8 2y agoYes, unfortunately. That’s a no-go for me.
- kxrm 2y agoI feel like this is an old man yells at cloud moment but I refuse to link social media or google accounts with other services. Why should Google's or Discord's policy dictate my participation in the web?
- qclibre22 2y agoSo google will rank them higher in search results?
- layer8 2y agoThey probably don’t want to deal with email registration workflows and want to limit themselves to OAuth, but that’s not user/customer-friendly.
- mark242 2y agoBecause the alternative is pretty provably worse for you, and for them. * You have to save your (hopefully unique!) email/password in a password manager which is effectively contradictory to your "I won't use a cloud service" argument. * The company needs to build out a whole email/password authentication flow, including forgetting your password, resetting your password, hints, rate limiting, etc etc, all things that Google/Apple have entire dedicated engineering teams tackling; alternatively, there are solid drop-in OAuth libraries for every major language out there. * Most people do not want to manage passwords and so take the absolute lazy route of reusing their passwords across all kinds of services. This winds up with breached accounts because Joe Smith decided to use his LinkedIn email/password on Midjourney. * People have multiple email addresses and as a result wind up forgetting which email address/password they used for a given site. Auth is the number one customer service problem on almost any service out there. When you look at the sheer number of tickets, auth failures and handholding always dominate time spent helping customers, and it isn't close. If Midjourney alienates 1 potential customer out of 100, but the other 99 have an easier sign-in experience and don't have to worry about any of the above, that is an absolute win.
- xnorswap 2y agoI have to say I'm very impressed. I've previously used free generators for generating scenery for my D&D campaign, and running a prompt here that previously took me dozens of tweaks to get something reasonable, instantly returned me a set of high quality images, at least one of which was much closer to my mind's eye than anything in those dozens of previous attempts. ( Prompting: An iron-gated door, set into a light stone arch, all deep set into the side of a gentle hill, as if the entrance to a forgotten crypt. The hill is lightly wooded, there is foliage in season. It is early evening. --v 6.1 ) And result: https://cdn.midjourney.com/5b56f713-3d64-471f-8c3c-08a0247e64cc/grid_0.png https://cdn.midjourney.com/5b56f713-3d64-471f-8c3c-08a0247e6... The style matches exactly what I'd want too, it's captured "Fantasy RP book illustration" extremely well, despite that not being in the prompt!
- skybrian 2y agoMidjourney's "house style" leans towards fantasy by default.
- coumbaya 2y agoFlux, latest Midjourney, or even dall-e... I'm still disappointed that 3 of my sci-fi prompts never works (interior of an O'Neill Cylinder, Space elevator, rotating space station). I hope someone makes lora of those one day.
- xnorswap 2y agoWhat prompts are you using for the space station? I think it pretty much nails it after some prompt tweaking. First attempt: https://cdn.midjourney.com/686f364f-188f-4065-813f-b45d219724bc/grid_0.png https://cdn.midjourney.com/686f364f-188f-4065-813f-b45d21972... Tweaking to specify spokes around the central axis: https://cdn.midjourney.com/d18d3ad3-3fd0-461e-a3a8-5fc46f0ba7ea/grid_0.png https://cdn.midjourney.com/d18d3ad3-3fd0-461e-a3a8-5fc46f0ba...
- iwontberude 2y agoSpace Wagon Wheel
- bonestamp2 2y agoThis makes me think the next generation needs an Oregon Trail type game for space travel.
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- coumbaya 2y agoAh thanks, seems it got better at this one then ! I've tried the 2 other prompts with the latest but the space station I had only tried in v5.
- GaggiX 2y agoYou can train your own lora online, https://replicate.com/ostris/flux-dev-lora-trainer/train https://replicate.com/ostris/flux-dev-lora-trainer/train I think this is the most popular one right now online for Flux.
- deisteve 2y agoHaven't used Midjourney since Flux dropped
- GaggiX 2y agoFlux seems to give the backgrounds even more detail and coherence compared to MJ, it's a surprisingly (or maybe not given its size) great model.
- indigodaddy 2y agowhere can we try/use? Is it just the obvious google result of https://getimg.ai/models/flux https://getimg.ai/models/flux ?
- GaggiX 2y agoTheir Github repo provides some links if you want to try it online: https://github.com/black-forest-labs/flux https://github.com/black-forest-labs/flux
- nullandvoid 2y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYVucud3ptc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYVucud3ptc has good coverage of running locally and via web (https://fal.ai/models https://fal.ai/models)
- minimaxir 2y agoReplicate, although not fully free, has the bonus of outputs from Flux (from their endpoints only) able to be used for commercial purposes whereas that is normally only applicable for Flux schnell: https://replicate.com/black-forest-labs/flux-dev https://replicate.com/black-forest-labs/flux-dev https://replicate.com/black-forest-labs/flux-schnell https://replicate.com/black-forest-labs/flux-schnell
- vunderba 2y agoAre you sure that's true? https://github.com/black-forest-labs/flux/blob/main/model_licenses/LICENSE-FLUX1-dev https://github.com/black-forest-labs/flux/blob/main/model_li... From the license: "We claim no ownership rights in and to the Outputs. You are solely responsible for the Outputs you generate and their subsequent uses in accordance with this License. You may use Output for any purpose (including for commercial purposes), except as expressly prohibited herein. You may not use the Output to train, fine-tune or distill a model that is competitive with the FLUX.1 [dev] Model." This license seems to indicate that the images from the dev model CAN be used for commercial purposes outside of using those images to train derivative models. It would be a little weird to me that they'd allow you to use FluxDev images for commercial purposes IF AND ONLY IF the model host was Replicate.
- weinzierl 2y agoIn iOS Safari I get Unable to process request due to missing initial state. This may happen if browser sessionStorage is inaccessible or accidentally cleared. Some specific scenarios are - 1) Using IDP-Initiated SAML SSO. 2) Using signInWithRedirect in a storage-partitioned browser environment. EDIT: I tried again from scratch in a new tab and this time it worked. So, temporary hiccup. EDIT2: I have all the images I created on Discord in the web app - very nice!
- SoftMachine 2y agoOpen to everyone, but you must have Google or Discord account. Has the definition of everyone changed?
- chipgap98 2y agoAnyone can sign up for one of those accounts. I don't really see why that would make this misleading
- handfuloflight 2y agoCan everyone have a Google is Discord account?
- handfuloflight 2y agoCan everyone have a Google or* Discord account?
- bhhaskin 2y agoIf your site or service only has social logins then it's a hard no from me.
- cabbageicefruit 2y agoOpen to everyone, but requires a computer. Has the definition of everyone changed?
- stemlord 2y agoEquating participating in walled garden social platforms to simply having a computer is bleak
- cabbageicefruit 2y agoPretending that someone can’t use your software because they don’t want to create a login through your providers is idiotic.
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- mintplant 2y agoThe splash screen locked up my fairly-recent Android phone. Like, I had to hard-reboot.
- weinzierl 2y agoI only see a form field for /imagine. How can I /describe? The docs say to hover over the uploaded image or use the test tube icon from the sidebar, neither of which seem to be available on mobile.
- skar3 2y agoI nave the same problem
- smusamashah 2y agoIdeogram 2.0 was also released today, and it's nerfed (anatomy is lot worse than 1.0 now) just like StableDiffusion versions after 1.5 which is very disappointing. Well good thing we have Flux out in the open now, both midjourney releasing web version or ideogram releasing there 2.0 on the same day after 2 weeks of flux won't redeem them as much. Flux Dev is amazing, check what SD community is doing with it on https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/ https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/ . It can do fine tuning, there are Loras now, even control net. It can gen casual photos like no other tool out there, you won't be able to tell they are AI without looking way too deep.
- arizen 2y agoAre there any publicly accessible Flux image generation services you may recommend to check out?
- smusamashah 2y agoThere are a few. https://fastflux.ai/ https://fastflux.ai/ for instant image gen using Schnell (but its fixed on 4 steps and is mainly a tech show off of inference engine by runware.ai) https://www.segmind.com/ https://www.segmind.com/ has API support with lots of options, I am using it to generate and set wallpaper using an AHK script. It's very very slow though. https://replicate.com/black-forest-labs/flux-schnell/examples https://replicate.com/black-forest-labs/flux-schnell/example... https://huggingface.co/spaces/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schnell https://huggingface.co/spaces/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schne... https://getimg.ai/text-to-image https://getimg.ai/text-to-image There are other tools now if you Google 'Flux image generator online'
- stuffoverflow 2y agoHuggingface has quite a few spaces with the base dev model as well as different variations of it. https://huggingface.co/spaces?sort=trending&search=dev https://huggingface.co/spaces?sort=trending&search=dev
- e98cuenc 2y agoCheck out https://www.freepik.com/pikaso https://www.freepik.com/pikaso you can try flux and flux realism
- jrm4 2y agoYes, I'm finding the "meh" here is expandable to most of the companies, and that's a great thing (e.g just got a $500 card and OpenHermes feels comparable to anything and it's running fully locally) I know there's often not a lot to be optimistic about, but the fact that so called "AI" is absolutely de-facto free/open source is perhaps just about the best way this stuff could roll out.
- sylware 2y ago"Midjourney web experience is now open to everyone"... "Enable JavaScript and cookies to continue"...
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- MrNeon 2y agoMJ coomers? The same MJ that bans accounts for coomer content? Not sure that will change just because of a new frontend.
- tschellenbach 2y agoI've been using it for a while and it's amazing :)
- jiggawatts 2y agoIt's just astonishing to me how difficult it still seems to be for the Midjourney team to develop a web site that amounts to little more than a textbox, a button, and an img tag. I tried their new web experience, and... it's just broken. It doesn't work. There's a showcase of other people's work, and that's it. I can't click the text-box, it's greyed out. It says "subscribe to start creating", but there's is no "subscribe" button! Mindblowing.
- wmf 2y agoThere's a theory that Midjourney didn't want to pay for image hosting (which they were getting for free from Discord).
- GaggiX 2y agoImages has been available on their website for quite some time.
- jiggawatts 2y agoThat has got to be a rounding error in their finances in comparison to the GPU time required to generate the images in the first place.
- vunderba 2y agoThat must have been a LOOONNG time ago, I've been a user of MJ since ~version 3 a couple years back - and I remember custom scraping my images way back in the day and they were coming from Google Cloud Storage, e.g. https://storage.googleapis.com/dream-machines-output/378f0f1b-3365-4144-8050-33163d485258/0_0.png https://storage.googleapis.com/dream-machines-output/378f0f1...
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- cma 2y agoSeems to be a direct response to Black Forest Labs' Flux being offered on Twitter with a lot of uptake.
- kgraves 2y agoI'm so glad that Midjourney and Flux is making creativity accessible to everyone, I don't need to have a subscription to MJ anymore now that Flux is getting better. Everybody can now be an artist and have creativity for free now. What a time to be alive.
- latexr 2y agoCreativity has always been accessible to everyone. Creativity is a concept which only requires imagination. Those ideas can take many forms, including writing, cooking, sewing, doing skateboard tricks… It doesn’t mean rearranging pixels on screen by vaguely describing something.
- kgraves 2y agoBut now we get artists skills for free, so anyone can become an artists with AI. This is a net positive for the world.
- quesomaster9000 2y agoAnd it still can't draw a spork yet [1] 1: https://canaidrawasporkyet.org/ https://canaidrawasporkyet.org/
- BryanLegend 2y agoI don't see midjourney on that site.
- Sohcahtoa82 2y agoI asked DALL-E for a spork and it did it just fine. https://imgur.com/5bvBTcB https://imgur.com/5bvBTcB
- GaggiX 2y agoprompt: "spork", model: "NovelAI v3" (aka finetuned SDXL) https://ibb.co/nLMZfjY https://ibb.co/nLMZfjY
- vunderba 2y agoMJ can't do it, but took me 10 seconds genning locally on an SDXL checkpoint: https://gondolaprime.pw/pictures/sporks-generative.jpg https://gondolaprime.pw/pictures/sporks-generative.jpg It's a rather arbitrary metric. All it proves is that the token "spork" wasn't in midjourney's training data. A FAR better test for adherence is how well a model does when a detailed description for an untrained concept is provided as the prompt.
- quesomaster9000 2y agoYup it's an arbitrary metric, but I tried cajoling various image models into generating spork pictures with highly detailed descriptions (I have ComfyUI & AUTOMATIC1111 locally, and many models), which lead to me creating the site. I'd say a better test for adherence is how well a model does when the detailed description falls in between two very well known concepts - it's kinda like those pictures from the 1500s of exotic animals seen by explorers drawn by people using only the field notes after a long voyage back.
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- vunderba 2y agoEver since DALL-E 3 completely eclipsed Midjourney in terms of Prompt ADHERENCE (albeit not quality), I've had very little reason to make use of it. However, in my testing of Flux Dev, I can gen images in roughly 15 seconds in Forge, throw those at a SDXL model such as Dreamshaper in the form of a controlnet and get the best of both worlds, high detail and adherent.
- whywhywhywhy 2y agoDall-E 3 (intentionally) leans away from realism though but in doing so what it leans into is a very tacky and aesthetically naive although competently executed type of image. Gives every image the feeling that you're seeing a bootleg version of a genuine thing and therefore makes everything else it touches feel tacky. Same feeling you get looking at the airbrushed art on a state fairground ride.
- Suppafly 2y ago>Same feeling you get looking at the airbrushed art on a state fairground ride. That's a great way to describe it. A lot of articles and youtube pics are using these images lately and they all give that sort of vibe.
- bambax 2y agoIn 15 seconds? Really? On my machine with good specs and a 4090 flux-dev takes around 400 seconds for 512x512! And flux-schnell at least half. Do you recommend a tutorial for optimization?
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- chenglou 2y agoWebsite contributor here! Answering some of the technical questions on Twitter: https://x.com/_chenglou/status/1826425720522080480 https://x.com/_chenglou/status/1826425720522080480
- bilekas 2y agoWhy do I need a Gmail or Discord account to register ?
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- seattleeng 2y agoIts cool but this feels really late. I just use Ideogram now. The social features are nice
- pknerd 2y agoAccess blocked: Midjourney’s request does not comply with Google’s policies Midjourney’s request does not comply with Google’s ‘Use secure browsers’ policy. If this app has a website, you can open a web browser and try signing in from there. If you are attempting to access a wireless network, please follow these instructions. You can also contact the developer to let them know that their app must comply with Google’s ‘Use secure browsers’ policy. Learn more about this error If you are a developer of Midjourney, see error details. Error 403: disallowed_useragent
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- joserohan101 2y agoGenerate an image of an ape working on a computer
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- olejorgenb 2y agoI really wish more services would offer a per-use pricing model in addition to the subscription model. I get why they don't of course...