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Mike Lynch's co-defendant in fraud trial 'fatally struck' by car while jogging
- ReptileMan 2y agoAnd Mike Lynch is missing not 24 hour before when the yacht he was on sunk. A hell of a coincidence.
- observer987 2y agosunk by a freaking tornado at that...
- Fluorescence 2y agoCurrently duck-duck-go-ing "hewlett packard weather engineering". It is now clear that all those Climate Research super computers HP has been involved in have yielded unexpected new capabilities... please subscribe to my newsletter to learn more.
- actionfromafar 2y agoSubscribed. Maybe they never stopped working on "The Machine", after all? ;-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Machine_(computer_architecture) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Machine_(computer_architec...
- kombookcha 2y agoThe only reason I can't go full tinfoil on this is that it takes a hell of a lot of things working out to fake your death by sailing into a fortuitous freak tornado. How would you even plan and execute that? If he'd just disappeared from the boat in the night or something it would be a different story. But it sure is weird as hell.
- TeMPOraL 2y ago> is that it takes a hell of a lot of things working out to fake your death by sailing into a fortuitous freak tornado It takes hell of a lot less things working out to actually die after a freaking Panavia Tornado[0] unexpectedly drops something on you. Not that I'm draped in tinfoil or anything, but the more I read about all this, the more it feels like watching a thriller. -- [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panavia_Tornado https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panavia_Tornado
- rightbyte 2y agoThe faker of his death could wait for any storm and pull the plug of the boat, though. Not like 'I hope there is a storm the 15th of May'.
- DoctorOetker 2y agoI agree, but they are choosing a dead end path: whoever wants to know where they are can sample DNA from as many relatives as possible, surreptitiously. Nanopores can be made with dielectric breakdown of a thin piece of etched wafer. Low input current noise op-amps can be used to measure the nanopore signal. A dedicated skip tracer will find you through environmental DNA.
- rightbyte 2y agoThat sounds like science fiction. Do those machines exist today?
- DoctorOetker 2y agoduring the covid pandemic and the container ship that blocked the Suez canal, there were sites tracking the movements of ship transponders. do we have a similar track for this yacht? was it intentionally moving towards the tornado? do you have a link for the tornado presence?
- scrlk 2y agoAlso adding that several top members of Mike Lynch's legal team were on the yacht, and one has been reported as missing.
- vasco 2y agoWell they were celebrating winning the trial so that part makes sense.
- rspoerri 2y agoSo, the weather manipulation devices are really existing? /s
- blitzar 2y agoAnyone at HP that is reading, I just want to appologies for calling your printer a "piece of garbage designed by idiots". I didnt mean it, I am very sorry and I will be renewing my subscription today. Nevertheless, I will be avoiding jogging and yachts for the next few months.
- Onavo 2y agoStraight from Boeing's corporate playbook
- lifestyleguru 2y agoMy favourite about HP is how they were charged by US authorities for corruption in Poland while Polish authorities haven't found anything on them.
- pcardoso 2y agonot related to HP, but in the same way German officials were found to have corrupted Portuguese politicians over the purchase of 3 submarines, yet the Portuguese police didn't find any wrongdoing. https://corruption-tracker.org/case/german-submarine-sales-to-portugal https://corruption-tracker.org/case/german-submarine-sales-t...
- lifestyleguru 2y agoGerman industry is well known to corrupt in "corrupted" countries.
- vasco 2y agoTo corrupt "corrupted" government officials would be more exact. Unless you think Germany has some moral high ground on Portugal which just the last 100 of history years should give you different ideas about comparing countries outright like this.
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- sph 2y agoSome background for those that do not know why Mike Lynch is supposed to be: https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/aug/19/who-is-mike-lynch-tech-boss-missing-yacht-sinking-autonomy https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/aug/19/who...
- istultus 2y agoOr, you know, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Lynch_(businessman) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Lynch_(businessman) (As it's better to read from the original source that the writer of the above piece used to write their piece, he said, not being sure if he were being snarky or honest)
- verzali 2y agoNow I'm confused, Wiki cites the Guardian piece as a source...
- petepete 2y agoI keep wondering what Mick Lynch was doing on a luxury yacht.
- lifestyleguru 2y agoCorporate America is nefarious like Russian intelligence. We are not even allowed in Europe a one silly 11bn startup.
- trhway 2y agoThe issue may not necessarily be the whole 11B. Just theoretical example from an imaginary world - say A buys something worth 5B from B for a very inflated price of 11B using somebody else's money, and B promises to kick-back to A a half of that over-payment, i.e. say 3B. And refuses to do that after the deal is done. That would probably make A very angry.
- aqme28 2y agoIt's a fun conspiracy that both co-defendants died within a day or two of eachother, but how the hell would the conspirators have sank a yacht this way? "It sank quickly after being hit by a waterspout at 4:30 a.m. during a storm that broke the mainmast, possibly unbalancing and capsizing the yacht."
- lifestyleguru 2y agoDon't underestimate the capabilities of Sicilian organized crime especially on their own territory. I guess a spacious penthouse in New York could easily stir a tiny local tornado nearby Sicily.
- trhway 2y agoIf you already "prepared" the yacht - say bought the cooperation of some member of the crew or planted some device or, that being a modern yacht, hacked something on it - that would have been a great time to trigger it. The yacht was a sitting duck on that anchorage. I really was surprised that such a yacht went down that way, especially given that ships nearby were just fine. Now, with that guy in England dying the way Russian oppositioners die there, my surprise got resolved. And remembering how those EBay execs went after those people only for bad reviews, one can imagine what the people like this can do when it comes to real money. And the scale of the money involved here can buy impressively "accidental" accidents.
- nexus6 2y agoThe yacht had the 2nd tallest mast (tallest aluminium mast). The tornado/waterspout snapped the mast, which made the ship unbalanced and capsize. It sank quickly after that. Not that out of the ordinary. There was another waterspout photographed in Italy that same day; they’re not that uncommon.
- rightbyte 2y ago> snapped the mast, which made the ship unbalanced and capsize. It sank quickly after that. Hardly. The weight of the mast is bogger all compared to the keel. You are supposed to have sails in those which give a perpendicular force to the mast.
- unglaublich 2y agoVulnerable road user murdered by driver. Always those softening words when a driver murders an innocent.
- Y_Y 2y agoIf driving were as dangerous as that we'd have no commerce! Imagine being fully liable for injuries you cause while mindlessly travelling at high speeds across populated areas. Nobody could afford to do it! The spice must flow!
- CalRobert 2y agoIt’s always the dead ones that suddenly “darted in to traffic “. Especially those damn kids!
- tome 2y agoI can't recall ever witnessing a pedestrian being hit by a car, nor a near miss, except two days ago when someone darted into traffic, and indeed it was a kid. Luckily it was fairly pedestrianised area (which may have given the kid the impression it was safe to dart) so the traffic was quite slow and able to stop in time, so no major harm was done but the poor parents must have had a minor heart attack.
- dllthomas 2y agoI had a near miss a couple weeks ago in SF, when a woman in a car behind the car waiting for me to cross decided she didn't want to wait.
- dustedcodes 2y agoNever mess with the FBI, CIA, Boeing and Hewlett Packard
- lifestyleguru 2y agoI'm afraid of my ink printer.
- blitzar 2y agoI have a new found respect for my ink printer. I didnt realise just what it was capable of.
- naikrovek 2y agoI’m glad I tossed mine years ago. HP can kill me anyway, I almost don’t care. The world has gone to shit and it’s almost not worth living in anymore. We’ve let capitalism destroy everything good.
- katzinsky 2y agoI can't imagine having bought one recently enough to have it still working. Those things are such garbage.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 2y agoThere are few things as chilling as the realization that corporations and other interests may not be above trying to kill you. It is not as bad as the realization that political killings in US happen as well, but it is up there.
- Bluestein 2y agoSwitched to Epson. Air-gapped.-
- andyjohnson0 2y agoMaybe a bit less snark and a bit more kindness is called for here? One person is fatally injured, another confirmed dead, and severel others are missing, perhaps dead too. Many people who know them will be hurting right now.
- CalRobert 2y agoWas this car autonomous? Unless it was, they were killed by a driver, not “struck by a car”. We don’t say people were fatally injured in bullet-related collisions…
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- jml7c5 2y agoI'm disappointed by the conspiratorial tone here. They had already been acquitted, sinking a yacht in a freak tornado makes zero sense as a way of assassinating someone, and the woman who hit Stephen Chamberlain with her car remained at the scene. Sometimes things just happen!
- DrScientist 2y agoIndeed. And let's not forget there were plenty of other rich and powerful people on that yacht - for example the international chair of Morgan Stanley is also missing. Though Morgan Stanley did downgrade HP on the 19th causing a 3.5% stock fall.... Wow - these conspiracies are so easy to make up.
- mrtksn 2y agoIt's just more fun this way, isn't it? It might be rude or tone deaf but I don't think that anyone is serious on claiming that it was an assassination. How could "they?" had pulled it off? Scenario 1: They risk losing their money and go to jail because they expect that the court decision be reversed over some evidence they expect to surface. Both are actually alive, Lynch sabotaged his yacht to fake his death, used the storm to make it plausible. The co-defendant falsified hospital records, it was all coordinated based on the weather forecast. Scenario 2: Someone held responsible over the huge loss decided to send a message. Paid someone to sabotage the yacht, knowing Lynch's plans to sail and the weather forecast also killed the co-defendant by making someone hit him on his daily jogging rutine. Both unplausible, still fun. Murder mystery and conspiracy are popular genre.
- weinzierl 2y agoTimeline, because it is not obvious: 2024-08-17 Saturday morning: Chamberlain hit by car 2024-08-19 Monday early morning: Yacht "Bayesian" sinks 2024-08-19 Monday morning: First news reporting of the car accident (doesn't get much attention) 2024-08-19 Monday morning: First reporting of Lynch missing 2024-08-20 Tuesday: First reports of Chamberlain's death So, the car accident was before the maritime incident. It is not clear to me when Chamberlain died.
- FerretFred 2y agoThe timing is weird .. fate?
- naikrovek 2y agoIf by “fate” you mean “hitmen paid by HP in a very hard to trace way”, then yes!
- DoctorOetker 2y agoif you can find the spontaneous rates of yachts sinking with eventually dead or missing people and spontaneous rates of people getting hit by a car and dying, you can calculate the likelihood for 2 such unordered events appearing within a surprisingly short amount of time. obviously the p-value for the null hypothesis that this is just random coincidence is miniscule in this case. in the long run formal verification and statistics will publically catch up with all these shenanigans.
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- 1vuio0pswjnm7 2y agoIf I am not mistaken the "fraud trial" referenced in the title is not the trial in the case brought by HP. HP won, though they may have appealed the amount of the settlement. The title likely refers to the criminal trial in the case brought by the US government where the defendants were acquitted on all charges.
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 2y agoA summary of HP's win in the UK: https://web.archive.org/web/20240717060827if_/https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Autonomy-v-Lynch-summary-280122.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20240717060827if_/https://www.ju... The fraud charges in the US: https://ia903108.us.archive.org/16/items/gov.uscourts.cand.335383/gov.uscourts.cand.335383.1.0.pdf https://ia903108.us.archive.org/16/items/gov.uscourts.cand.3...
- jannw 2y agoLPT: never steal from people more than it costs to have you killed
- moneykills 2y agoWhy was yacht move to deeper waters shortly before it sank ?? A submarine needs depth A large submarine venting it's ballast tanks beneath a ship could easily sink a 52 metre yacht Bodies found aboard yacht, most likely dead before yacht was sunk