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That's what happen after an IPO, you have to please your shareholders Price no longer match the reality, if you haven't already, look elsewhere, much better al

That's what happen after an IPO, you have to please your shareholders Price no longer match the reality, if you haven't already, look elsewhere, much better alternatives exist, much cheaper

mschuster91 2y ago
> Price no longer match the reality, if you haven't already, look elsewhere, much better alternatives exist, much cheaper ... but without the software support and documentation side, be it upstream kernel support, libraries for interfacing with stuff like acceleration or GPIOs or whatever. The biggest advantage of the RPi ecosystem is the community. Unless you're dealing with absolutely cutting edge stuff involving PCIe, chances are very high that someone else has already seen the problems you are facing and documented solutions.
- Dead_Lemon 2y ago
  Isn't this how most IPO ends up going. Make self look good to shareholders by using the community to uplift the product. Then, set up walled gardens to begin extrapolating funds from the community, as shareholders want more cash flow, damaging the contribution rate/trust of the community. Finally, all out enshittification, its profits above all else, as the remaining contributing community have now bailed to a new, less draconian, platform. Now the Pi foundation needs to turn the screws on anyone that relies on the product in productive environments, to maintain the year on year financial growth. This is a very cynical take on future events, but I wont be surprised if it goes this way, as was there actually a need to IPO? We already had a massive shift away from hobbyists to industrial/commercial clients, before the IPO, so I don't see it getting better for hobbyist/enthusiasts. Costs will increase more, as they will see how their industrial clients make money from using a Pi in manufacturing process, and so the shareholders will want more of that slice from their clients.
- lunfard000 2y ago
  the ecosystem will catch up eventually, keep building it around a public company is terrible idea. Raspberry is overestimating their value.
  - mschuster91 2y ago
    > Raspberry is overestimating their value. The problem is that the competition in embedded is generally an utter pile of shit. Good luck even talking to some vendor if you're not willing to order 100k or more and don't have inside connections, BSPs (bootloader, kernel, userland libraries) are generally years out of date forked versions that barely build, and serious documentation is often behind NDAs... RPi has a lot of room to sink before it gets threatened by the competition.

That's what happen after an IPO, you have to please your shareholders Price no longer match the reality, if you haven't already, look elsewhere, much better alternatives exist, much cheaper

mschuster91 2y ago

> Price no longer match the reality, if you haven't already, look elsewhere, much better alternatives exist, much cheaper ... but without the software support and documentation side, be it upstream kernel support, libraries for interfacing with stuff like acceleration or GPIOs or whatever. The biggest advantage of the RPi ecosystem is the community. Unless you're dealing with absolutely cutting edge stuff involving PCIe, chances are very high that someone else has already seen the problems you are facing and documented solutions.

Dead_Lemon 2y ago
Isn't this how most IPO ends up going. Make self look good to shareholders by using the community to uplift the product. Then, set up walled gardens to begin extrapolating funds from the community, as shareholders want more cash flow, damaging the contribution rate/trust of the community. Finally, all out enshittification, its profits above all else, as the remaining contributing community have now bailed to a new, less draconian, platform. Now the Pi foundation needs to turn the screws on anyone that relies on the product in productive environments, to maintain the year on year financial growth. This is a very cynical take on future events, but I wont be surprised if it goes this way, as was there actually a need to IPO? We already had a massive shift away from hobbyists to industrial/commercial clients, before the IPO, so I don't see it getting better for hobbyist/enthusiasts. Costs will increase more, as they will see how their industrial clients make money from using a Pi in manufacturing process, and so the shareholders will want more of that slice from their clients.
lunfard000 2y ago
the ecosystem will catch up eventually, keep building it around a public company is terrible idea. Raspberry is overestimating their value.
- mschuster91 2y ago
  > Raspberry is overestimating their value. The problem is that the competition in embedded is generally an utter pile of shit. Good luck even talking to some vendor if you're not willing to order 100k or more and don't have inside connections, BSPs (bootloader, kernel, userland libraries) are generally years out of date forked versions that barely build, and serious documentation is often behind NDAs... RPi has a lot of room to sink before it gets threatened by the competition.