Yeah, and the fact that is gone on so long without them throwing a bunch of shit into Starliner and sending it back down with a whole lot of telemetry shows jus

Yeah, and the fact that is gone on so long without them throwing a bunch of shit into Starliner and sending it back down with a whole lot of telemetry shows just how much clothing the emperor doesn't have. If NASA and the rest of the USA had an Engineering Culture, it would be a forgone conclusion that if the experiment went sideways you'd figure it out and continue on. They went and made it political. This isn't directed at you, for you, I wish could actually pay you for your response. SpaceX has one thing going for it and it is iterate and gather data. NASA used to have this, and then they lost it. When shit becomes "important" it also becomes ridiculously stupid. We need to figure out how to make things not important.