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Personally, I will not buy a car without CarPlay goi g forward. I assume for most that’s close to a deal breaker.

indemnity 2y ago
I thought so too, but to be honest I haven’t missed it too much in my Tesla. It already covers my streaming music use cases, and built in navigation is good enough.
- al_borland 2y ago
  How does it work when you have something in your calendar? I will often put locations in my calendar, get in my car, and then I can tap the location of my next appointment in CarPlay to route me to my next location. I think I’d miss similar integration with a lot of apps that require my personal data to be useful. I can’t see something from the OEM doing this well, especially if I’m not willing to send all my data to them. I would have been squeamish about it before, but it’s a hard no after the auto marker privacy report came out and everyone did horribly. https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-wheels-every-car-brand-reviewed-by-mozilla-including-ford-volkswagen-and-toyota-flunks-privacy-test/ https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-...
  - bhuber 2y ago
    Tesla owner here. If you have the Tesla app installed on your phone, you can "share" addresses from map apps to it and it will auto-sync them to your car. So the workflow is open calendar on your phone, click on location for appointment, open with Tesla app. It's not quite as seamless as android auto, but much better than having to type everything in manually.
    - notyourwork 2y ago
      Which defeats the point because you have to interact with your phone.
  - para_parolu 2y ago
    You can share calendar and see events on tesla screen with “navigate” button.
    - cyberax 2y ago
      Except it often can't resolve the address if you have something like "Doctor's Appointment 365rd W, Ste 312, Some City, XY, 12345"
  - deleted 2y ago
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- brian-armstrong 2y ago
  What's the Tesla modder community like? Are there jailbroken Teslas that can run Android Auto?
  - xaqfox 2y ago
    The method I've seen is to run a carputer with Android installed and use the Tesla web browser to connect to it (no jailbreak needed). https://teslaandroid.com/ https://teslaandroid.com/
SoftTalker 2y ago
I'd buy a car without it in a heartbeat. Preferably one without any screens at all. I know this is wishful thinking.
- stoolpigeon 2y ago
  I enjoy the camera for backing up.
  - skgough 2y ago
    All new cars sold in the US are now required to have backup cameras. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/02/backup-cameras-now-required-in-new-cars-in-the-us.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/02/backup-cameras-now-required-... If the car comes without an infotainment system, it will still have a backup camera regardless.
    - Arrath 2y ago
      I had a Dodge pickup with the most basic radio package, no screens or infotainment. Per the law it had a backup camera, the screen for which was in the rear view mirror. It was perfect.
  - nonethewiser 2y ago
    Only because they’ve made the visibility so shit
    - shiroiushi 2y ago
      No, backup cameras are better than rear visibility has ever been. If a small child is sitting directly in front of your rear bumper, can you see that in any car? I don't think so. But with any modern car with a proper backup camera, the kid is easy to see on the monitor. This, in fact, is the main reason these cameras were mandated: lots of kids were getting run over, usually by their own parents. Of course, worse visibility makes it even more likely, but rear visibility has never been great in any car.
spencerchubb 2y ago
I had it installed in my 2014 mitsubishi. I can't imagine not having it
- itake 2y ago
  yeah, seriously. In WA, you can't hold your phone while you drive. I guess in theory, you could mount your phone on your dashboard where it gets sun/heat damaged?
  - jjulius 2y ago
    Why do you need to use your phone while driving? Set your nav at the start of your trip, start your music at the start of your drive. Skipping or anything else is easy to do when stopped at a light. My phone has always done just fine mounted on a dash, never had any concerns around sun/heat damage.
    - mathgeek 2y ago
      > Why do you need to use your phone while driving? Just one example, but map apps will often require an interaction to accept alternate routes around congestion.
      - jjulius 2y ago
        Do they actually require it? I've noticed that Waze, for instance, will default to rerouting you if you don't respond to the prompt. Which is great - they seem to have taken into account the fact that folk might be driving, so let's just keep getting them there as fast as possible.
        mathgeek 2y ago
        Some do, yes.
    - cyberax 2y ago
      I listen to audiobooks all the time, and sometimes I want to rewind the last 30 seconds or skip ahead.

I thought so too, but to be honest I haven’t missed it too much in my Tesla. It already covers my streaming music use cases, and built in navigation is good enough.

al_borland 2y ago
How does it work when you have something in your calendar? I will often put locations in my calendar, get in my car, and then I can tap the location of my next appointment in CarPlay to route me to my next location. I think I’d miss similar integration with a lot of apps that require my personal data to be useful. I can’t see something from the OEM doing this well, especially if I’m not willing to send all my data to them. I would have been squeamish about it before, but it’s a hard no after the auto marker privacy report came out and everyone did horribly. https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-wheels-every-car-brand-reviewed-by-mozilla-including-ford-volkswagen-and-toyota-flunks-privacy-test/ https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-...
- bhuber 2y ago
  Tesla owner here. If you have the Tesla app installed on your phone, you can "share" addresses from map apps to it and it will auto-sync them to your car. So the workflow is open calendar on your phone, click on location for appointment, open with Tesla app. It's not quite as seamless as android auto, but much better than having to type everything in manually.
  - notyourwork 2y ago
    Which defeats the point because you have to interact with your phone.
- para_parolu 2y ago
  You can share calendar and see events on tesla screen with “navigate” button.
  - cyberax 2y ago
    Except it often can't resolve the address if you have something like "Doctor's Appointment 365rd W, Ste 312, Some City, XY, 12345"
- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]
brian-armstrong 2y ago
What's the Tesla modder community like? Are there jailbroken Teslas that can run Android Auto?
- xaqfox 2y ago
  The method I've seen is to run a carputer with Android installed and use the Tesla web browser to connect to it (no jailbreak needed). https://teslaandroid.com/ https://teslaandroid.com/

SoftTalker 2y ago

I'd buy a car without it in a heartbeat. Preferably one without any screens at all. I know this is wishful thinking.

stoolpigeon 2y ago
I enjoy the camera for backing up.
- skgough 2y ago
  All new cars sold in the US are now required to have backup cameras. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/02/backup-cameras-now-required-in-new-cars-in-the-us.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/02/backup-cameras-now-required-... If the car comes without an infotainment system, it will still have a backup camera regardless.
  - Arrath 2y ago
    I had a Dodge pickup with the most basic radio package, no screens or infotainment. Per the law it had a backup camera, the screen for which was in the rear view mirror. It was perfect.
- nonethewiser 2y ago
  Only because they’ve made the visibility so shit
  - shiroiushi 2y ago
    No, backup cameras are better than rear visibility has ever been. If a small child is sitting directly in front of your rear bumper, can you see that in any car? I don't think so. But with any modern car with a proper backup camera, the kid is easy to see on the monitor. This, in fact, is the main reason these cameras were mandated: lots of kids were getting run over, usually by their own parents. Of course, worse visibility makes it even more likely, but rear visibility has never been great in any car.

spencerchubb 2y ago

I had it installed in my 2014 mitsubishi. I can't imagine not having it

itake 2y ago
yeah, seriously. In WA, you can't hold your phone while you drive. I guess in theory, you could mount your phone on your dashboard where it gets sun/heat damaged?
- jjulius 2y ago
  Why do you need to use your phone while driving? Set your nav at the start of your trip, start your music at the start of your drive. Skipping or anything else is easy to do when stopped at a light. My phone has always done just fine mounted on a dash, never had any concerns around sun/heat damage.
  - mathgeek 2y ago
    > Why do you need to use your phone while driving? Just one example, but map apps will often require an interaction to accept alternate routes around congestion.
    - jjulius 2y ago
      Do they actually require it? I've noticed that Waze, for instance, will default to rerouting you if you don't respond to the prompt. Which is great - they seem to have taken into account the fact that folk might be driving, so let's just keep getting them there as fast as possible.
      - mathgeek 2y ago
        Some do, yes.
  - cyberax 2y ago
    I listen to audiobooks all the time, and sometimes I want to rewind the last 30 seconds or skip ahead.