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Too much "bleak Chinese economy" pieces in the West, not enough "China is leapfrogging us" takes. eg China uses machine learning to automate production more tha
by yosefk 2y ago
Too much "bleak Chinese economy" pieces in the West, not enough "China is leapfrogging us" takes. eg China uses machine learning to automate production more than is done in the West and lowers production costs, meanwhile in the West we say they're dumping/subsidizing their industry (when the reality is they don't need to, their cost is genuinely lower) and we're busy building another model predicting words or pixels while our ability to build anything from cars to artillery shells atrophies
- loufe 2y agoStarted out as a reasonable take then seemed to finish just as propagandist as you were accusing the headline of being.
- ein0p 2y agoI’ve been seeing “China is doomed” articles for the last decade and yet it seems to be chugging along just fine. My wife and I decided to go there and see for ourselves. Can confirm, they’re doing more than all right. We’ll be back.
- aquamar2 2y agohttps://www.reddit.com/r/real_China_irl/comments/1ev4oin/%E4%BD%A0%E5%9B%BD%E7%9C%9F%E7%9A%84%E6%98%AF%E6%9C%89%E4%BA%86/ https://www.reddit.com/r/real_China_irl/comments/1ev4oin/%E4... 吃到一半，结果其中一人突然把话题转到了经济情况，他说现在经济十分不景气，家里的生易亏了很多钱。 另一个人则吐槽起了就业压力大，996，物价上涨什么之类的。 第一个人把矛头一转，对准了中共，说中共现在瞎搞把经济都搞坏了。 https://www.reddit.com/r/real_China_irl/comments/1evf77w/%E5%B0%B1%E4%B8%8D%E6%87%82%E7%95%99%E5%AD%90%E6%80%8E%E4%B9%88%E8%BF%98%E4%BC%9A%E7%B2%89%E7%BA%A2/ https://www.reddit.com/r/real_China_irl/comments/1evf77w/%E5... 如果粉红能思考, 自然也就不会粉红了. 那些留学还回去的粉红, 我至少还对他们保留一丝尊敬, 就算愚蠢, 他们至少言行一致. 选择留在民主国家生活, 但是离岸爱国的粉红, 我是真不太懂.
- whatshisface 2y agoThere's no contradiction between bleak economies (for individuals) and production growth when there is no freedom. The economy is for workers to squeeze against each other, the Party squeezes everybody. If you want a smaller-scale domestic analogy, look at how the federal reserve sees low unemployment as a sign to raise interest rates.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> not enough "China is leapfrogging us" takes. eg China uses machine learning to automate production more than is done in the West What are you reading? This is the dominant drumbeat. There are also subsidies, which we’re now matching.
- tw04 2y ago> meanwhile in the West we say they're dumping/subsidizing their industry Machine learning isn’t manufacturing ev batteries or solar panels at below cost. Also if you think they invented using machine learning to optimize production lines you must not actually work with any US based manufacturing companies. I can tell you I was helping US companies optimize via IOT sensors over a decade ago, and they were doing machine learning against those inputs before it became the hot new Silicon Valley term of the decade.
- snowpid 2y agoGermany has a bleak economy currently , definitely not leap frogging anyone but definitely no scammers on young Germans finishing their diplomas. Do you think these scammers are a healthy sign of the Chinese economy ?
- carlmr 2y agoI think Germany, while bleak, still has a lot more labor protection and unemployment benefits. While the labor protection makes it harder for new people to enter the job market - which is especially bad in the current economy - it makes people less worried about losing their jobs. The unemployment benefits make scamming less attractive, as the financial rock-bottom is quite high for now. The only question is what will happen in the next few years if the middle class further erodes and there's no tax base to pay those unemployment benefits left.