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I've been using Windows daily since 3.1 and, while there are been some digressions at various points over the years, MSFT always eventually managed to course co

I've been using Windows daily since 3.1 and, while there are been some digressions at various points over the years, MSFT always eventually managed to course correct and get things back on track. But I gave up on Windows 11 a few months ago and am slowly migrating all my Win11 systems back to Win10. I gave up because it's been over three years during which MSFT has repeatedly demonstrated the Windows business is being operated with fundamentally different priorities in the Win11 era than it ever has been. The myriad things which have been removed from Win11 and the new things which are annoying on a daily basis are not regressions. They're not going to be fixed because these new priorities are now part of MSFT's core strategy for the Windows business. They have prioritized incessantly promoting adjacent subscription businesses and de-prioritized making Windows a complete, feature-rich, functional and streamlined tool for individual power users. For the past 30 years, Windows has generally gotten better for users like me (with a few detours, which were corrected). It's not that MSFT always did everything the way I'd prefer but, even when we disagreed on implementation, we remained largely in sync on the overall goals. Since Win11, it's become clear that Microsoft's interests are no longer mostly aligned with my own interests as an individual power user.

stonethrowaway 2y ago
I’ve been reading comments like these since Windows ME. Vista was supposed to doom Microsoft because XP was the best. I don’t want to sound dismissive, but it’s a boring drop in the bucket. Windows will go on and get better.
- serf 2y ago
  >Windows will go on undoubtedly >...and get better well that would buck the entire constant downward UX trend that has happened ever since data exfiltration became the actual revenue stream for Microsoft. I get the "I hate new windows version Y" statements are getting old, i've been reading them for at least as long -- but it doesn't make the points that they extrapolate upon wrong. Windows has long been trending 'anti-user' , and has recently met a threshold that has thrown a lot of long-time users off the scent -- especially since other OSs have never been better/compatible/capable.
- happymellon 2y ago
  Windows versions are like Trek films. > Windows will go on and get better. Well, we can probably agree on the first half of that.
dngray 2y ago
I always find these comments hilarious, because at some point Windows 10 will no longer have any security support. It certainly won't come as OEM with new hardware. This is not a big deal. Most laptops have TPM 2.0, and most motherboards can have a dTPM accessory if they don't have it onboard. Windows 11, has a lot of useful things, which 10 did not, for example DoH in the system resolver and a variety of other security benefits. It's literally like people complaining if Windows doesn't work on old-BIOS only computers, it's not going to make much difference as nobody has those. If they do have those then a cut down Linux OS makes more sense as those devices likely won't have much RAM either to run a modern browser etc.
- akikoo 2y ago
  Do you also find it hilarious that Microsoft is making completely fine working CPUs on millions of computers unusable for Windows 11 ?
  - dngray 2y ago
    They will always need to strengthen requirements to strengthen security. In the past Microsoft has too heavily aimed for compatibility at the cost of security. This was pretty much their thing in the Windows XP days and everyone laughed at all the ways they screwed up. There seems to be a clear focus on attestation and preventing persistent malware from taking root in a system's boot chain and potentially firmware. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/hardware-security/tpm/how-windows-uses-the-tpm https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/hardware-...
- pcdoodle 2y ago
  Some of us find people like you hilarious. We prefer a car that feels nice to drive. New one is safer but darn, it's no longer a car to me.
- tmdh 2y ago
  So, I should abandon my laptop that I bought in 2017 and buy a new one???
- 2y ago

stonethrowaway 2y ago

I’ve been reading comments like these since Windows ME. Vista was supposed to doom Microsoft because XP was the best. I don’t want to sound dismissive, but it’s a boring drop in the bucket. Windows will go on and get better.

serf 2y ago
>Windows will go on undoubtedly >...and get better well that would buck the entire constant downward UX trend that has happened ever since data exfiltration became the actual revenue stream for Microsoft. I get the "I hate new windows version Y" statements are getting old, i've been reading them for at least as long -- but it doesn't make the points that they extrapolate upon wrong. Windows has long been trending 'anti-user' , and has recently met a threshold that has thrown a lot of long-time users off the scent -- especially since other OSs have never been better/compatible/capable.
happymellon 2y ago
Windows versions are like Trek films. > Windows will go on and get better. Well, we can probably agree on the first half of that.

dngray 2y ago

I always find these comments hilarious, because at some point Windows 10 will no longer have any security support. It certainly won't come as OEM with new hardware. This is not a big deal. Most laptops have TPM 2.0, and most motherboards can have a dTPM accessory if they don't have it onboard. Windows 11, has a lot of useful things, which 10 did not, for example DoH in the system resolver and a variety of other security benefits. It's literally like people complaining if Windows doesn't work on old-BIOS only computers, it's not going to make much difference as nobody has those. If they do have those then a cut down Linux OS makes more sense as those devices likely won't have much RAM either to run a modern browser etc.

akikoo 2y ago
Do you also find it hilarious that Microsoft is making completely fine working CPUs on millions of computers unusable for Windows 11 ?
- dngray 2y ago
  They will always need to strengthen requirements to strengthen security. In the past Microsoft has too heavily aimed for compatibility at the cost of security. This was pretty much their thing in the Windows XP days and everyone laughed at all the ways they screwed up. There seems to be a clear focus on attestation and preventing persistent malware from taking root in a system's boot chain and potentially firmware. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/hardware-security/tpm/how-windows-uses-the-tpm https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/hardware-...
pcdoodle 2y ago
Some of us find people like you hilarious. We prefer a car that feels nice to drive. New one is safer but darn, it's no longer a car to me.
tmdh 2y ago
So, I should abandon my laptop that I bought in 2017 and buy a new one???
2y ago