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> Ever Pharma’s explanation of how the putative peptides in Cerebrolyin cross the blood-brain barrier does not make sense and flies in the face of scientific re
by emsign 2y ago
> Ever Pharma’s explanation of how the putative peptides in Cerebrolyin cross the blood-brain barrier does not make sense and flies in the face of scientific research which shows that most peptides do not cross the blood-brain barrier
It can be considered a benefit from a manufacturer's pov that their product doesn't work. If it did their customers would smarten up and stop buying it.
Anyway this looks like your typical "traditional" chinese medicine scam. I mean it has something to do with animal brains, of course it works, right?
- vasco 2y ago> It can be considered a benefit from a manufacturer's pov that their product doesn't work. If it did their customers would smarten up and stop buying it. Even if you are not very smart, doing some tests on yourself seems easy enough. If you pull up any psychology paper on like effecs of CO2 on cognition, and do the tests on yourself, you'd expect to start doing better after a few weeks of taking it, and if not stop. But I think most people that take products to help them improve just go by feel. I read a few nootropics articles back in the day and nobody ever proved any improvement larger than drinking coffee.
- darwinaward 2y agoTaking untested drugs is risky because self-testing is unreliable, can lead to serious health problems, and lacks the expert guidance needed to safely assess their effects. Anyone who does this deserves the Darwin award and science CATEGORICALLY advises you to do something else. Those who find medical breakthroughs did not take shortcuts. They are trained and experienced and painstaking. Do something well tested and proven to work instead and reap the benefits of all of these proven trained professionals. One idea: Acute Sprint Interval Exercise Increases Both Cognitive Functions and Peripheral Neurotrophic Factors in Humans.
- vasco 2y agoI don't take any of this, I think they are just bait for people that want to "be better" without doing work. But what I mean is know many people that do take nootropics or "microdose" mushrooms or whatever and they never test their own cognitive abilities in a standard way before and after they start. It's almost like they don't care if it works.
- gus_massa 2y agoWith most test, the problem is that after a few weeks you learn to solve them more efficiently [1] and the improvement can be falsely attributed to the nootropics. Double blind randomized controlled trial or it didn't happen. [1]In the math class, we call it "studding for the midterm" :)
- kalium-xyz 2y agothe nootropics community suffers from certain individuals who will retake free online IQ test with only a few days in between to "test" these drugs. It doesn't really work well... For a proper retest one has to wait at least 6 months.
- ipsum2 2y agoEven TCM is more scientifically backed than Cerebrolysin. See the research on cordyceps for example. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-58742-z https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-58742-z https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordyceps_militaris#Research https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordyceps_militaris#Research
- duskwuff 2y agoOr artemisinin, which was discovered by Chinese researchers reviewing TCM texts discussing treatments for malaria. (The lead researcher, Tu Youyou, received a Nobel Prize for her work in 2015.)
- RGamma 2y agoPresumably users that inform themselves wouldn't take something that's approximately named "brain dissolvent" anyway.