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Google threatened tech influencers unless they 'preferred' the Pixel

55 points by luu 2y ago

matchbok 2y ago
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ilrwbwrkhv 2y ago
Lol. Google knows they can't win in hardware, search or AI anymore. Now you will see more and more evil stuff from the once "do no evil" company abusing its monopoly power.
- Something1234 2y ago
  Last good google phone was the nexus 5 until it boot loops. Life sucks get used to it with google.
  - ilrwbwrkhv 2y ago
    Yup. I bought a brand new Pixel 7 because I loved the old HTC made Pixels. The P7 stopped receiving calls for whatever reason at random times. Twice it missed emergency calls and that's when I decided to pull the plug. So that is why they are threatening influencers now. But nothing will come of it. They will lose albeit slowly because monopolies are allowed in our country.
  - kadoban 2y ago
    The Pixel phones have been generally quite good, especially if you stick to the lower end ones and wait for a good deal. The photo software is great, the support period is good, and there's just no real big complaints about the rest. Probably the only brand or tool from Google I actually have good feelings about these days.
  - filoleg 2y ago
    What about Nexus 6P? I personally liked that one quite a bit, until it started hitting the issue with shutting down at ~30% battery (on top of the battery already being weak in the first place) and bootlooping. Sadly, those problems started just about a year into owning the device, and they were widespread enough that Google just started sending brand new Pixels as a replacement for free.
- matrix87 2y ago
  > Google knows they can't win in hardware cameras on pixels tend to rank well compared to competitors, so it's arguable that they are winning in that regard. maybe not in the camera hardware itself, but the pictures the hardware+postprocessing produce and frankly the camera is one of the most important parts on a phone. whether it has 8gb or 12gb of ram or 60hz or 120hz display is kind of irrelevant to most people
  - Zambyte 2y ago
    Just buy a compact camera. I have a Sony ZV-1 (though the RX100 is more geared towards photography if that's your preference) that I carry in my pocket, usually instead of my phone. It costs less than top it the line phones with way better picture quality. Seriously, if you care that much about your camera, don't buy a phone as your camera. Cheap out on your phone instead.
    - SR2Z 2y ago
      Nobody in their right mind is carrying a separate camera with them everywhere they carry their phone.
      - bcraven 2y ago
        I guess me and my Fuji X-E3 are out of our minds then. I like taking good photos, so I carry a camera.
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    - matrix87 2y ago
      idk cameras can get kind of expensive and have a bunch of accessories phones are simple and low fuss
      - Zambyte 2y ago
        Phones can get expensive and have a bunch of accessories too. I don't get your point honestly. Did you look at either of the cameras I mentioned? The class of camera is called a "point and shoot"[0] for a reason. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-and-shoot_camera https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-and-shoot_camera
bryant 2y ago
BLUF: * The program seemed intended for influencers of the non-reviewer and non-press variety. * Nonetheless, a fair number of reviewers were in the program, and the reviewers are the ones who've spoken up about the language. Google's statement here in essence implies total blindness to the fact that there were tech reviewers in the program ("#TeamPixel is a distinct program, separate from our press and creator reviews programs. The goal of #TeamPixel is to get Pixel devices into the hands of content creators, not press and tech reviewers. We missed the mark with this new language that appeared in the #TeamPixel form yesterday, and it has been removed."). ^^This all makes it look even worse in my opinion.
- gruez 2y ago
  Why? Are you against the program in principle or how it was executed (ie. reviewers got in the program)? I don't see any issues with giving out free phones in exchange for good publicity, as long as it's properly disclosed. The execution was suboptimal but I don't see any evidence of malice either.
- CatWChainsaw 2y ago
  Well, to be fair, Google clearly designated content creators they thought they could threaten into silence as their literal marks, so accidentally letting tougher audiences see the language is "missing the mark". Honestly, every corporate apology is just "sorry you caught us, next time you won't."
learningmore 2y ago
“When asked, Google communications manager Kayla Geier told The Verge that “#TeamPixel is a distinct program, separate from our press and creator reviews programs. The goal of #TeamPixel is to get Pixel devices into the hands of content creators, not press and tech reviewers. We missed the mark with this new language that appeared in the #TeamPixel form yesterday, and it has been removed.” Those terms certainly caused confusion online, with some assuming such terms apply to all product reviewers. However, that isn’t the case. Google’s official Pixel review program for publications like The Verge requires no such stipulations
netsharc 2y ago
The first part of the question is formed so weasely. "You acknowledge that you are expected to...". Sure, I can acknowledge that GOOG is expecting me to do stuff, but other than me acknowledging the request, it's not asking me to fulfill its expectations (yet). Can you acknowledge me saying "Go fuck yourself" to your expectations? Obviously the second part is less weasely...
mensetmanusman 2y ago
Google should sell their phone division to MS.
- solardev 2y ago
  Why? The Pixels have been fine, if boring. But that's what I wanted: a boring, stable Android phone with regular updates.

55 points by luu 2y ago

matchbok 2y ago

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ilrwbwrkhv 2y ago

Lol. Google knows they can't win in hardware, search or AI anymore. Now you will see more and more evil stuff from the once "do no evil" company abusing its monopoly power.

Something1234 2y ago
Last good google phone was the nexus 5 until it boot loops. Life sucks get used to it with google.
- ilrwbwrkhv 2y ago
  Yup. I bought a brand new Pixel 7 because I loved the old HTC made Pixels. The P7 stopped receiving calls for whatever reason at random times. Twice it missed emergency calls and that's when I decided to pull the plug. So that is why they are threatening influencers now. But nothing will come of it. They will lose albeit slowly because monopolies are allowed in our country.
- kadoban 2y ago
  The Pixel phones have been generally quite good, especially if you stick to the lower end ones and wait for a good deal. The photo software is great, the support period is good, and there's just no real big complaints about the rest. Probably the only brand or tool from Google I actually have good feelings about these days.
- filoleg 2y ago
  What about Nexus 6P? I personally liked that one quite a bit, until it started hitting the issue with shutting down at ~30% battery (on top of the battery already being weak in the first place) and bootlooping. Sadly, those problems started just about a year into owning the device, and they were widespread enough that Google just started sending brand new Pixels as a replacement for free.
matrix87 2y ago
> Google knows they can't win in hardware cameras on pixels tend to rank well compared to competitors, so it's arguable that they are winning in that regard. maybe not in the camera hardware itself, but the pictures the hardware+postprocessing produce and frankly the camera is one of the most important parts on a phone. whether it has 8gb or 12gb of ram or 60hz or 120hz display is kind of irrelevant to most people
- Zambyte 2y ago
  Just buy a compact camera. I have a Sony ZV-1 (though the RX100 is more geared towards photography if that's your preference) that I carry in my pocket, usually instead of my phone. It costs less than top it the line phones with way better picture quality. Seriously, if you care that much about your camera, don't buy a phone as your camera. Cheap out on your phone instead.
  - SR2Z 2y ago
    Nobody in their right mind is carrying a separate camera with them everywhere they carry their phone.
    - bcraven 2y ago
      I guess me and my Fuji X-E3 are out of our minds then. I like taking good photos, so I carry a camera.
    - deleted 2y ago
      [deleted]
  - matrix87 2y ago
    idk cameras can get kind of expensive and have a bunch of accessories phones are simple and low fuss
    - Zambyte 2y ago
      Phones can get expensive and have a bunch of accessories too. I don't get your point honestly. Did you look at either of the cameras I mentioned? The class of camera is called a "point and shoot"[0] for a reason. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-and-shoot_camera https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-and-shoot_camera

bryant 2y ago

BLUF: * The program seemed intended for influencers of the non-reviewer and non-press variety. * Nonetheless, a fair number of reviewers were in the program, and the reviewers are the ones who've spoken up about the language. Google's statement here in essence implies total blindness to the fact that there were tech reviewers in the program ("#TeamPixel is a distinct program, separate from our press and creator reviews programs. The goal of #TeamPixel is to get Pixel devices into the hands of content creators, not press and tech reviewers. We missed the mark with this new language that appeared in the #TeamPixel form yesterday, and it has been removed."). ^^This all makes it look even worse in my opinion.

gruez 2y ago
Why? Are you against the program in principle or how it was executed (ie. reviewers got in the program)? I don't see any issues with giving out free phones in exchange for good publicity, as long as it's properly disclosed. The execution was suboptimal but I don't see any evidence of malice either.
CatWChainsaw 2y ago
Well, to be fair, Google clearly designated content creators they thought they could threaten into silence as their literal marks, so accidentally letting tougher audiences see the language is "missing the mark". Honestly, every corporate apology is just "sorry you caught us, next time you won't."

learningmore 2y ago

“When asked, Google communications manager Kayla Geier told The Verge that “#TeamPixel is a distinct program, separate from our press and creator reviews programs. The goal of #TeamPixel is to get Pixel devices into the hands of content creators, not press and tech reviewers. We missed the mark with this new language that appeared in the #TeamPixel form yesterday, and it has been removed.” Those terms certainly caused confusion online, with some assuming such terms apply to all product reviewers. However, that isn’t the case. Google’s official Pixel review program for publications like The Verge requires no such stipulations

netsharc 2y ago

The first part of the question is formed so weasely. "You acknowledge that you are expected to...". Sure, I can acknowledge that GOOG is expecting me to do stuff, but other than me acknowledging the request, it's not asking me to fulfill its expectations (yet). Can you acknowledge me saying "Go fuck yourself" to your expectations? Obviously the second part is less weasely...

mensetmanusman 2y ago

Google should sell their phone division to MS.

solardev 2y ago
Why? The Pixels have been fine, if boring. But that's what I wanted: a boring, stable Android phone with regular updates.